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Twin Towers given Second Life

Odile jumps
Someone’s rebuilt the World Trade Center in Second Life, just for 9/11. You’ll find it in the Elegua Sim. We poked around the virtual erections and could not find any demolition charges set in the intact towers, but you can teleport to the observation deck and grab a snapshot of yourself jumping in the pre-war-on-terrorism age.

ADDENDUM: Who can know the minds of the WTC victims who chose to jump into the void of city sky out their windows, sooner than being engulfed in flames. With no aerial help on its way, did they hope that rescuers might be hustling up a means to catch those who jumped?

Perhaps the best of all terrible recourses was to make a final grand swan dive, a final extreme adrenaline ride, public or not, an expression of control over a predicament not of your making. Of course much hay has been made about whose actions brought this fate home to roost, but that’s a discussion for another time.

Who is to say we must avert our eyes when the WTC jumpers took a brave Warholian leap into the 9/11 national tragedy?

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Comment from Eric   (IP: 75.70.36.58)
Time: August 26, 2007, 12:16 pm

You think we’re irreverent? I found these on the web, obviously Photoshopped conceptual pieces…
Jumper earings

Comment from jessica   (IP: 69.108.122.15)
Time: May 25, 2008, 7:59 pm

tasteless..

Comment from The 13th   (IP: 67.174.107.114)
Time: May 28, 2008, 10:22 am

actually… boring iconic history – but the censorship indeed denied aspects of the tragedy.

question one:
which is more heroic – to be under the rubble or above it?

(why the censorship?)

Robert downy jr rings the bell at wall street. Welcome back Iron Man… Hooray for the survivors and their barbarism.

question two:
is survivalism barbarism? – if so – why do we still crave such excesses? baby need a new pair of shoes?

faster pussycat. kill kill.

my best friends are cavemen – all buying their privacy to fight off the alienation. but there is no hypocrisy there – correct?

quasimodo rings the bells and carries the emotional luggage so we each have the luxury to comment on the flavor and not the hunger.

tasteless? yes.

fashion is an edible.

….but agreed – it’s all lip gloss and greed – to the families. fork it all.

alas – matthew sheppard never wanted to grow up to be a t-shirt either.

The travel guides apologize for interrupting your Disneyland moment with black jewelry. Buy some more retreat – then advance it.

Faces of Death – is the aphrodisiac. The only thing admirable is that the pigs can pay their weigh.

Otherwise – totally unsexy.

Oh well. Stop learning – keep moving – take a breath and celebrate. Freddie Kruger helps your kids have sex at the drive-in, and Janet Leigh was a thief, until she met Tony.

It’s all a stage – we’re growing through.

Try to smile if they give you a tip, and keep the seed from rocks.

Jump for joy.

Comment from jason   (IP: 67.86.117.212)
Time: June 15, 2008, 9:05 pm

There are just some things you don’t joke about. Regardless of your feelings about America, Bush, Iraq, Race, anything, you have to be one heartless fuck to even find that somewhat funny.

Comment from liam   (IP: 86.141.211.172)
Time: August 14, 2008, 9:05 am

that is just sick to even make that photo

Comment from de rigueur   (IP: 24.218.186.115)
Time: September 11, 2008, 7:57 pm

wow, you’re pretty much a cunt, huh?

Comment from Eric   (IP: 75.70.37.148)
Time: September 11, 2008, 9:24 pm

Excuse me, WHO are the cunts? The Neocons and their creepy enablers exploit 9/11 and its victims every day, every anniversary and every election. We’re cunts for trying to expose their manipulations?

Comment from Terry King   (IP: 75.66.197.101)
Time: September 11, 2008, 11:39 pm

You are a sick, disgusting, stupid, piece of shit. I hope your whole family dies slow, painful, horrible, deaths.

Comment from Eric   (IP: 75.70.37.148)
Time: September 12, 2008, 12:20 am

You’re just egging us on to GREATER 9/11 IRREVERENCE. You get no sympathy, especially in light of your spitefulness.

Either you’re a survivor, who got a multi-million dollar settlement not to sue the government and require an investigation into how 911 was allowed to happen,

OR you’re a first responder who did clean up and are now dying from the toxic environment which your mayor swore was safe,

OR you’re among the millions of dupes who believe the official US-victimized version of 9/11. Get over it.

To those who jumped to their deaths from the WTC, what raw courage. Common people turned their heads away from the elegant final gestures you were forced to make.

Comment from tony logan   (IP: 75.70.33.168)
Time: September 12, 2008, 9:41 am

I have to admit that I don’t find any point at all to this tasteless post, Eric. Why don’t you just remove it from the blog totally since it never should have been posted a year ago in the first place? Nothing at all is accomplished by putting material of this level of tripe online.

I must say, that it is disheartening to be posting material that tries to alert people to the fact that both political parties are fully behind promoting a buildup to a possible nuclear confrontation with Russia, and having to come back online to criticize this sort of childish crap. Meanwhile, mainstream America seems to have been led out to pasture by the corporate media and is only concerned with lipstick on a pig and the like. A sad situation.

KRCC had NPR blaring away with some nonsense about whether or not lipstick could actually be put on a real pig. At times here on this blog, we too seem to be doing little better than NPR and KRCC, and that is truly embarrassing. I believe that the world-wide economic meltdown and the buildup to war with Russia deserve to have more of our attention and not just nonsense about 9/11 or Palin and the pig’s lipstick.

Comment from Eric   (IP: 75.70.37.148)
Time: September 12, 2008, 11:05 am

This post IS a year old. And Tony, we differ on the imperative of tearing down the official 9/11 myth. And I think it’s fine to address the weirdos who are Googling “911 JUMPERS.”

I also believe NMT has the attention span to address multiple concurrent issues.

Comment from Kaitlyn   (IP: 72.161.237.96)
Time: September 13, 2008, 3:39 pm

That’s nothing to make earrings about!

Comment from Bob   (IP: 76.5.36.112)
Time: January 28, 2009, 7:50 pm

you’ve gotta be screwed to even think of that, you stupid, freak’n, no good for nothing, heartless, idiotic son of a b****! you don’t give a care for those who had to jump because of a tregedy that was out of their hands. you fu**’n slime of shi*, you deserve to be at the bottom of the towers you asshole! hope you die the way we’ll make fun of you.

Comment from Eric   (IP: 201.218.214.71)
Time: January 28, 2009, 9:11 pm

DUDE. We honor the sad buggers who bravely jumped. What, everyone was supposed to look away?

Comment from Mandy   (IP: 201.218.214.71)
Time: January 28, 2009, 9:32 pm

B*b doesn’t even want to l**k at his own cuss w*rds!

Comment from charlie   (IP: 206.53.144.91)
Time: February 14, 2009, 3:41 pm

Are people who Google “9/11 jumpers” just voyeurs? Why is there so little information available about one of the most terrifying aspects of 9/11? The mainstream press made the “jumpers” appear like some type of crazy sideshow. In reality, about 1 in 5 to 1 in 7 perished in this manner. Still, the city of NY refuses to acknowledge that they “jumped” — rather, they use the term “forced out” or “blown out”. Because mainstream media outlets censored the images of the jumpers, they cropped up via other less savory internet sources. Regardless of the source, the images are valid testaments to what happened on 9/11 — to those people, to their courage and elegance amidst chaos. Should we really want to avert our eyes? Looking away is not an option, at least not for me anyway.

Comment from elijah   (IP: 99.9.53.138)
Time: February 14, 2009, 6:59 pm

seriously? thats wrong what if you were a jumper of the 9?11 attack and somone did that to asshole

Comment from elijah   (IP: 99.9.53.138)
Time: February 14, 2009, 7:03 pm

seriously? thats wrong what if you were a jumper of the 9?11 attack and somone did that to you your an asshole and should be tought a lesson spme of us have sad storys from 9?11 so who are you to make a fashon statement out of those peice of shit things you call earrings youre a peice of shit! culo….

Comment from Frank   (IP: 71.223.121.240)
Time: February 18, 2009, 1:50 pm

This is simple…you dont insult or degrade the death of people to prove a political point. You were not taught the simple aspects of morality in your life. You feel 9/11 was an inside job..fine but you dont need to mock the images of people last moments of life to push your point. One doesnt have a belt buckle with images of a Holocaust victim on it to show your feeling on WW2. You dont have a necklace with a noose on it to discuss your objections to the horrible lynchings that took place against African Americans. You dont dress up like a bloody Sundanese for Halloween to protest the genocide in the Sudan. You are showing a level of irreverence here. Its morally wrong to mock their deaths to prove your political point and you should be ashamed.

Comment from Melissa   (IP: 74.79.81.69)
Time: April 19, 2009, 8:10 pm

These earrings are disgusting. Whoever made these obviously lacks any morals. You should be ashamed of yourself. By taking such a horrible time in our history and making them into earrings, we are making the victims in a joke. May you burn in Hell.

Comment from Frank   (IP: 75.70.37.148)
Time: June 7, 2009, 9:07 pm

I cannot begin to describe my distaste for your picture of a 9/11 jumper on your shitty little site. Regardless of your kook fringe ideology, it is very disrespectful and you should be ashamed. Is that how you teach your children to behave? Nice guy..

Comment from The 13th   (IP: 24.8.176.5)
Time: June 8, 2009, 7:43 am

Frank you are so right. Your comment changed my life.

Yes, I want to teach my kids to ignore history and practice blindness with etiquette just like we were taught.

Columbine High School never happened either and Columbus really did discover America. Now can we get the Super Happy Meal and prize?

Silly fringe history… it really really spoils the good life. Someone drag the old records out and spin the Victrola machine one more time.

“Remember me, I used to live for music
Remember me, I brought your groceries in
Well its fathers day and everybodys wounded.

…first we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin.”

Comment from Michelle   (IP: 24.224.56.235)
Time: June 13, 2009, 5:46 pm

In response to Tony Logan… You say… ” I must say, that it is disheartening to be posting material that tries to alert people to the fact that both political parties are fully behind promoting a buildup to a possible nuclear confrontation with Russia,….”

Would you prefer to be one of the lambs being led to slaughter? Too many questions and no good answers…. For years and years we have been conditoned to believe what we are told …Bombarded with our governments version of facts we are left with little else to believe so we accept the truth as they make it… and we become part of the manipulated herd..

When you look at all the evidence that has been gathered from the common people.. people that stand to gain nothing by distorting reality, actual eyewitnesses to what occurred, then compare it to the explanation we were given by the top officials of this country (gotta remember that the media reports only what they are allowed to , by government regulation) there are more discrepencies than resolve…

Can everybody be mistaken EXCEPT the guys on top?? How can you think that so many people witnessed one event and what they saw was not what happened??? Step out of your box and check it out..

Personally I want to be given that “freedom” that the US is supposed to be about.. I want to know the REAL facts not be told what our government decides to tell us..

If there is any question about how invovled in 9/11 and many other attacks on this nation, the Bush family and many other high ranking people really are then I would like to suggest you find and read anything written by David Icke.. In his books you will find reality.. Facts and the documentation to support what is said… He shows how very true the phrase “History repeats itself” is… From the bombing in Oklahoma to 9/11 ..and many events between he shows how corrupt the top officials of this country are and where these “engineered acts of terrorism” are taking us.. Now that is disheartening…

It is overwhelming when you take off the blinders place by our government and look at how our civil liberties are being destroyed …if there is any hope of keeping this country the “Land of the Free” we need to be allowed the truth as it is not as “they ” decide it will be..

I find your mentality Mr. Logan .. as very disheartening… Try reading Children of the Matrix or Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster ..both by David Icke …or would you prefer to remain in the herd?!

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 168.103.252.37)
Time: June 17, 2009, 1:00 am

Oh, I can assure you, Tony is NOT in anybody’s herd.

I guess you guys will have a lively discussion on what he meant with his critique of it.

Don’t worry about him being shy about it either.

Comment from sorcha   (IP: 86.156.126.94)
Time: October 18, 2009, 8:18 am

coll

Comment from irene   (IP: 190.139.8.213)
Time: November 11, 2009, 12:40 pm

“One doesnt have a belt buckle with images of a Holocaust victim on it to show your feeling on WW2. You dont have a necklace with a noose on it to discuss your objections to the horrible lynchings that took place against African Americans. You dont dress up like a bloody Sundanese for Halloween to protest the genocide in the Sudan”

but you do wear a crucifix to honor the dead of Jesus. I mean, the guy bleed to death in there, he was nailed to a wood thing and you guys wear the thing around your necks like it’s a holy thing. If Jesus had been shot, will you wear a riffle around your neck to honored him?

a crucifix and this lame earings are the same thing, you just took some things as naturals…

Comment from Jenny R   (IP: 213.254.213.46)
Time: November 11, 2009, 10:14 pm

How much for the earrings?

Comment from allanah   (IP: 188.220.209.157)
Time: November 20, 2009, 1:15 pm

why did they blown up the twin towers?
what is the point of blowing them up

Comment from bob ze bomber   (IP: 221.6.45.38)
Time: January 19, 2010, 9:32 pm

for shitz n giggles, or you could just use wiki?

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 97.112.145.118)
Time: January 19, 2010, 10:08 pm

To help their friends Bush and Cheney scare Americans into giving them total control over our lives, and more importantly, our Money.

Comment from FRICKU   (IP: 70.131.84.64)
Time: August 17, 2010, 9:51 pm

ASSHOLE, NOT FUNNY!

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 71.221.105.100)
Time: August 17, 2010, 10:19 pm

What’s really not funny, not anything about freedom, or dignity, or love, or patriotism, but is instead pure racist scare-mongering, of the fake-leaders of America and their equally fake Patriot fake Christian TeaBags and Minutemen Once more exploiting the WTC collapse, that killed quite a few Muslims including some of the First Responder Ambulance, fire and even police officers for their own selfish political gain.

Egged on by people who make money from the continual war they provoked with LIES. Given the track record of the War-Mongers and Scare-Mongers who beat the “9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11″ drums I’d not doubt for an instant that the Cowardly Murdering Scum at the Pentagon and their War Industry boards of directors, every company from Intel to Microsoft to Boeing to Halliburton to GodDamnPigSucking Incorporated who grabbed a huge piece of Publicly Funded Corporate Warfare/Welfare pie from the hysteria of their pet Media Propagandists and Americans who are too racist and or scared to even ask questions, you’ll just hand over your liberty and any money they haven’t already stolen from you, and pillory those of us who DO have the courage to ask those questions.

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 71.221.105.100)
Time: August 17, 2010, 10:29 pm

Excusez-moi. Long sentence. What I don’t for a moment doubt is that these Captains of (the) Industry (of massive fraud and snagging every Government Giveaway of the freedoms and well-being of Americans) ACTUALLY WOULD have a hand in the destruction of their Temple of The Almighty(dollar) in order to cash in.

That would include but not be limited to: George Bush, Richard Cheney, Karl Rove, Scooter Libbey, Rudi “I’m not an accomplice, I was just across town dodging mistress number one and wife number three, while cavorting with mistress number two” Giuliani, Sarah Palin, Jerome Corsi, Lt Colonel Oliver North, Richard Secord, Poindexter, even the Reagan Family with their brain-dead-and-soon-to-be-all-dead Ronald, and every other son of Satan who profits from the endless war started with the bombing.

They lied about every single thing else concerning Their War, why should I expect they were honest about 9/11?

Comment from mark   (IP: 98.211.1.45)
Time: September 30, 2010, 6:14 am

Wait a minute….”Elugua Sim” deems it necessary to include the possibility of the audience to “join in” and see what they would look like jumping from the WTC on 9/11? Seriously?
I’m certain no corporate f%#&s from this game ever put themselves in this situation, for any other reason than to sell, sell, sell! We may have been better off if it was only these folks from Sim that jumped from 100 stories up to their certain deaths. Sick bastards.

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 174.24.4.150)
Time: September 30, 2010, 9:04 am

Funny, that. No high ranking Trade Ministers were in the buildings when they went down. On a Tuesday morning far removed from any national holidays, ours or theirs. Rudi Giuliani who would have been in Building 7 was across town screwing one of his mistresses instead. How many other CEOs and Foreign Trade Ministers got that early morning call quietly warning them not to go to work that day? A lot of the service staff were there. Just, you know, not any bigpigs. No John Jacob Astors going down with that particular Titanic, like you’d expect with a Temple to Wealth being destroyed, UNANNOUNCED prior to the event. At a place where you can go to the Starbucks and buy a cup of Ethiopian coffee and then go back to your office and buy ALL the coffee in Ethiopia.

Comment from JCMIII   (IP: 99.23.193.201)
Time: January 14, 2011, 10:58 pm

Obsidian facets score lightly into shoulder as a bracing wind buffets flesh and fire.
Blue sky which carried innocence on the backs of evil now summons my peace.
I am primed for transformation in this space between.

Indoctrinated assassins, resolute in rage took guiltless to grave.
Murdered over who’s prophet will profit while claiming same god.
Now they glow together as candles to commonality.

Rage breeds rage, and more will surely FOLLOW.
Peace seldom pierces disciples of hate and more have been spawned today.
Humanity grows consumed by hate as if in the flames at my back, and my fate clarifies

Falling into the atmosphere, harmony envelops me.
Velocity mounts as soul secedes.
Corporeal form continues descent as spirit transforms to bliss.

Comment from Tasha Gross   (IP: 98.110.14.156)
Time: February 16, 2011, 4:22 pm

Ok Eric, tell me this. Why would you make something so vulgar like a Sim victim jumping out of a Simmed up Twin Towers, or post something so disturbing like WTC jumper earrings? Is 9/11 such a joke to you? I may not have seen this terrible tragedy happen myself, but that is just sick.

How would you feel if you were part of the family of any of those victims who though there was no hope for their own survival? Some had nowhere else to go because they were trapped over the explosion site or in the hot flames surrounding their offices. Others had lost all their hope and the only way they knew to escape was to die.

People like you make me so upset. It’s like you have nothing better to do but post up a VERY haunting memory of a successful terrorist attack. And what about all of those poor passengers on the PLANES that crashed INTO the WTC buildings? Do you wanna post a sick joke about that too????

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 174.24.9.95)
Time: February 17, 2011, 10:53 am

It’s not nearly as tacky, disrespectful or just plain DEADLY as using the (probably rigged) 9/11 attack to maintain the level of pure hatred directed at people who Were NOT Involved and justify the murder of civilians around the world using airplanes, bombs, bullets… in a war specifically for Conquest and the control of the world economy, for the benefit of a Very Tiny Minority of Americans.

Assuming the “19 hijackers” were exactly who U.S. Government Propaganda says they were, they would still have one thing that the Drone Operators flying their Remote Control Murder Devices from the sheltered comfort of a Nebraska Air Force Base will NEVER have… they had the BALLS to actually die for what they believed in.

Same for the Torturers also protected and isolated from retribution, and “justified’ by the obscene use of the deaths on 9/11 as a war-drum Propaganda Tool.

Same for their Fat-Cat chickenhawk Whorelords like Bush and Cheney who are still collecting money off the results of that propaganda.

Save your bile for those who exploit those deaths to make money off MORE deaths.
Save your contempt for the people in churches and civic groups across America who support the Murderous Cowardly Thieves based on that imagery. Because they’re either too lazy, too frightened or just too ignorant to question the assumptions foisted off on us, and violently imposed on the rest of the world, by “our” leaders.

That, you see, is NOT a joke.

For what it’s worth, we didn’t post the vast majority of the pictures of Dead Babies in the countries designated to take the retribution for 9/11. There are thousands.

There are MILLIONS killed by the economic devastation caused by the War on arbitrarily defined Terrorism.

Comment from Marie   (IP: 24.8.133.13)
Time: February 17, 2011, 9:16 pm

Amen, Brother Jonah.

Comment from Esteban   (IP: 199.106.175.160)
Time: March 22, 2011, 3:02 pm

@BrotherJonah:

Yet you admit that it IS “tacky, disrespectful” right? K, got it. As long as you guys know how wrong this is and aren’t being very serious about this helping ANYONE at all, I can sleep at night.

Because if this is seriously what you guys believe can help bring awareness for whatever you guys are pushing then you all deserve to be locked up for lunacy. This did not have to be used to push your point.

I actually have been reading your comments as well as the others who flock to your cause and I understand what you’re trying to represent. But these means are just in-humane. I don’t use that word lightly either, you guys are seriously far-removed from human beings, you are monsters.

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 174.24.1.168)
Time: March 22, 2011, 9:02 pm

Locking one up for mental illness is supposedly only done when one is both insane and dangerous.

I know many of the people who wrote and neither they nor I are insane.
As for a present danger to either ourselves or anybody else, that’s not happening either.

The monsters exploited the deaths of 3000 by starting two wars which have killed perhaps a couple of million.

They cloaked their war for profit by calling it a war for vengeance and those of us who objected are met with crowds of very loud people screaming “9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11! 9-11!”

Insanity is described legally as not knowing the difference between right and wrong, and not knowing the difference between fantasy and reality.

Both conditions have to be met. So is it right, or wrong, to kill perhaps two million people, many of them deliberately uncounted, based on a lie?

Is the lie real? DID either Saddam Hussein or the Afghan people actually commit the original 3000 murders? The Liars say it, but don’t believe it.
The ones who DO believe it are the ones afflicted by madness.

Comment from Tasha Gross   (IP: 98.110.15.138)
Time: April 2, 2011, 1:04 pm

Brother Jonah I believe. you are right about that. I mean, I may be young and don’t know much about conspiracies and war madness and such, but I know what insanity is. Insane people aren’t always safe with others around them. But there are some cases where insane people are actually right about what they think is right or wrong. I’m not saying you’re wrong about this though. I’m just saying that people can think what they want about the wrong doing of innocent people, but it doesn’t change what happened that day. Nothing will.

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 174.24.33.83)
Time: April 2, 2011, 7:21 pm

The entire point is, whether or not Giuliani and Bush set the whole thing up as a venue for their profit, they did profit from it. They also have between themselves and their confederates denied compensation to people injured in the cleanup, after holding them up as heroes, until they were inconvenient.

They’re building a new WTC which looks a lot like a giant hand with the middle finger upstretched toward God. There are so vast a multitude of people wanting to cash in on the three thousand lives and on the firemen and others who are dying from the toxic waste to which the buildings were reduced.
They would be despicable with or without original guilt in the destruction, and have added thousands more American lives and hundreds of thousands, perhaps two million, Iraqi and Afghan and Pakistani lives to their blood guilt.

They deserve any scorn you could heap upon them, yet you choose to heap scorn on those who oppose and mock them.

Why? Are the Bu’ush Regime too powerful for you to dare challenge? Those who demand that you hate anybody who speaks against them…

That compounds tragedy upon tragedy and guarantees more to come.
To change the course not of the past, “what happened that day” is impossible. To prevent at least one further incident, very possible. If it takes a merciless and scathing denunciation of the greed and other evils of people who will make a profit from fanning the flames of hate, then Amen and Amen. That’s Aramaic for “thus be it”.

Comment from Tasha Gross   (IP: 98.110.15.138)
Time: April 4, 2011, 1:41 pm

I honestly don’t think that building a new WTC is even worth it. It just just doesn’t make up for what damage had already been done. I think it’s just a goverment cover-up to make us think that what happened that fateful day can just be built over.

This is about more than just two collapsed buildings. America is claimed to be a free country, but yet the government wants to hide the truth from us. We as citizens have a right to know what’s going on with our country.

Some people think this thing is a big joke so they start making Second Life versions of the horror that some of the 9/11 victims had to endure before their lifeless bodies slammed into the ground, and photoshopping images of earrings with those who jumped at the end of them!

Well, to those who think this is a joke I have one thing to say. You must not know know a damn thing about the suffering that all the victim’s families had to go through who are still dealing with the loss of there loved ones.

The govenment is trying to convonce America that everything will be fine and dandy and that this whole thing will just blow over with time. That may work for some, but not this 15 year old girl! I may be young, but i’m smart enough to know the difference between the truth, and a lie.

Comment from anonymous   (IP: 94.197.174.73)
Time: April 13, 2011, 11:00 am

have you got any respect for those people

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 174.24.33.83)
Time: April 14, 2011, 1:55 pm

Yeah, Tasha, it was suggested, seriously, once Giuliani’s salvage crews got what money was buried in the rubble, and the search for more victims suspended, that they simply put up concrete barriers around the 40 ft high pile of rubble, then fill it in with concrete, and write the names of all the killed on it. Make it a tombstone. Which would be really fitting.
Instead, they’re wanting to build another, taller tower.
One of the things noted immediately after the first attack, also on Giuliani-the-really-tough-terror-fighters watch,

Long before you were born… but the words of the first commission, long before 9/11, were that the buildings should be torn down because of the structural damage.

This was brought up again, when the “Let’s all get richer off the human misery” crowd were scrambling to grab as much cash as they could, and proposed the New Towers.
It was also noted that the search for victims was hampered because when the towers went down, it broke the bedrock. Building anything there again would be stupid, but they’re going to. Why? To make money.
There are two ways to fight this, one is to rail against their greed,

Which is my preference.

Eric chose to mock them. The first few complaints against it seem to have been inspired or led by the Greed-heads who, unlike us, ARE making money selling the tragedy. Any soldier in the war who gets killed, they’ll market him as well.

Since many of them, Trump for instance, make a lot of deals with both sides in any dispute, they might even be marketing the deaths of the Iraqi and Afghan and Pakistani citizens killed in the retaliaton For Somebody Elses Crime. Turn your talents, perhaps, to those who commit the ultimate dishonor? Shame them. Call them out. We did.

Comment from Megan   (IP: 76.100.55.184)
Time: July 16, 2011, 9:12 am

America-hating, ignorant lib. Bush kept your sorry ass safe for 8 yrs. When ( not if ) a successful attack happens on “unclench your fist’s” watch, may the only casualties be you and those that support your vile spew.

Comment from Bill   (IP: 205.167.42.2)
Time: September 1, 2011, 7:28 pm

Do us all a favor and post your address. I would love to pay you a visit and take out a little frustration for the 3 years I spent deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq one piece of your sorry ass at a time. You are a sorry excuse for a human being and every damn one of you that thinks he’s any different than that.

Comment from Eric   (IP: 75.70.74.252)
Time: September 1, 2011, 9:48 pm

Our address is listed. What’s yours? Or do you only make threats anonymously, you coward-ass baby-killer?

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 75.70.193.154)
Time: September 1, 2011, 10:05 pm

Yeah, that’s what happens, Bill. They send you out to parts of the world you would just as soon never have seen, to avenge a crime that might have been committed with the full consent and cooperation of your commanders.

The truth is slowly wiki-leaking out of the darkened rooms where they’ve hidden it.
Yet, they’re bulding another set of towers, the central one is like a giant middle finger extended to heaven.
Next weekend, they’ll be holding rallies across America to keep the hatred alive so they can start more wars, kill more people on every side, and keep up their excuse for maintaining a police state.

Not that the Coward Bastards ever need an excuse to shred the constitution, the Bible, the Koran, the Torah and Talmud.. or to alter the perception of history by teaching lies to children, so the children will grow up to be hatred-spewing murderers.

They use the false charges which “justified” the judicial lynching of Union Worker Joe Hill by the state of Utah in Texas history books to demonize the IWW and by extension, every worker in the world. The same set of corrupt history which teaches that Columbus liberated America and that slavery was a benign, non-racist system.

And the cycle of hatred continues. They bitch that Arab (sic) kids (they use the word to describe North Africans, Turks, Pushtu, Pathan, Iranians etc but not Hebrews who actually ARE Arabian) play with a doll that looks suspiciously like GI Joe to “train them to hate” but, American kids doing the exact thing under a different name are excused from the charge of Brainwashing Future Terrorists.

One of the bastards who sent you over there with their chorus of lies, The Commander In Thief, lives in Dallas and makes regular appearances at the University Park United Methodist Church.

Comment from Bill   (IP: 205.167.42.2)
Time: September 2, 2011, 12:34 pm

I cannot believe how infinitesimally ridiculous you (Eric & Jonah) you sound. First of all, you want my address? 2438 Bridgewood Road, Rocky Mount, NC. Please feel free to bring your sorry, good-for-nothing, chicken-shit ass by any time. I would love to see you. Secondly, you have the audacity to call me a “coward-ass baby killer?” And you have what proof of this especially considering you have absolutely no idea what my job was over there. Is that how you report your news, just make it up as you go along? Baseless allegations followed by a series of fellow idiot-blogs that you serve to justify your incessant ramblings. What have you done to prove your self-worth? What have you done to deserve the air that you breathe? By continuously attacking and defiling the very people that guarantee you the liberties and freedom to spew forth from your mouth? You call me a coward-ass baby killer? At least that would give me the fortitude to do something outside of my shell unlike the pitiful and sorry-ass excuse of a human being that you are. One day Karma will come around and when it does I pray that it hits you like a freight train.

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 75.70.193.154)
Time: September 2, 2011, 1:13 pm

Look, terrorist threats in the name of “freedom” are exactly the kind of Nazi style bullshit we have opposed. Also having my nieces, my nephews, my grandkids because it’s going to last that long, fighting YOUR Masters’ wars-for-profit disguised as “justice” (There wasn’t a single Afghan or Iraqi among whoever took down the towers, but your chickenshit lying-ass commander in thief insisted on using it as an excuse to grab, with YOUR firepower, lands that don’t belong to him or his oil-corporation buddies, to line their pockets.)

It’s people like that who dishonor America and any soldier who got caught up in their war. You weren’t deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan to fight for freedom, you were there to bring them into Corporate Slavery.

Your Masters Bush and Cheney lied through the entire process and you’re going to lie for THEM? Of course you are, you already did and used the threat of violence against Americans who oppose being the puppet-like slaves of cowards like Bush and Cheney.

Just like they never put their hands to the shovels or other tools by which their families have gotten rich, they wouldn’t put their hands to the gun either.

That’s why they’re called chickenhawks. You don’t like freedom of speech, go the fuck back to Iraq or Afghanistan where you can “legally” kill Human Beings for talking back to you and the other storm-troopers of the empire.
Hey, you “gave” them the same freedoms, right? Freedom to shut up and bow before you?

I’m usually a little more patient with people who have been through the shit you went through. Threatening me, however, you stepped over any bounds. I know you don’t have the moral courage to apologize so I don’t expect you to do so. Shit, boy, you didn’t even have the moral courage to tell cowards like CheneyBush to kiss off.

You want to lie for them, that’s your business BUT, you ain’t going to stop other people from telling the TRUTH.
“fighting for freedom” MY ASS.

That’s like saying the Confederacy were actually fighting for freedom.

You ought to apologize to every American for believing that we’d all be stupid enough to buy your bullshit.

Or scared enough to fall silent when Your Royal Majesty so commands.

Comment from Bill   (IP: 205.167.42.2)
Time: September 2, 2011, 1:27 pm

Brother Jonah,
You must have really hit your head hard when you fell off the bar stool at the enlisted club. Then you go tell everybody that it was a preventable accident? Sure, if you would have stopped a couple of Shirley Temples ago. So sad the irony of it all.

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 75.70.193.154)
Time: September 2, 2011, 1:45 pm

One more time, because you’re not getting the message very clearly. Not my fault because it was spelled out to you very clearly.

You do not nor will you ever have the privilege of threatening anybody, civilian or military. If you insist that you’re giving us freedom you will be called a liar and you need to grow the hell up and learn to accept truth.

By the way, I left the E-club and other forms of self destruction to the fools. And, there were plenty of them.

Apparently still are.

My great uncle Clay took a Yankee Minie ball upside the head somewhere in Northern Virginia fighting for slavery. At least afterward he had the BALLS to admit that’s what it was all about.

Sure, he took a stand far a cause. But that “cause” was WRONG and so is the one you say you fought for in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I can’t be ashamed of what Uncle Clay did, sure as Hell can’t be proud of it either. You gonna turn from fighting a for-profit war overseas and then get all pissy and whiny and threatening when people notice that’s what you war was all about, and tell you about it?

No, sir, I ain’t in the market for fresh pork on the hoof.
Sell that hog to somebody dumb enough to buy it.

Comment from Eric   (IP: 75.70.74.252)
Time: September 2, 2011, 11:24 pm

Chill out Bill, no one’s coming your way, unless it’s cops to ask what you meant by your threat “pay you a visit and vent my frustration” etc. Thank you for volunteering that info, but I’ll add, your IP doesn’t match the address you gave…

As a soldier, whether a pencil-pusher, driver or recruiter, your work supports the uniformed thugs out there killing innocents, many who it turns out are children and babies, that makes you a baby-killer, and because you can’t figure that out, you’re a dumb-ass.

Comment from Marie   (IP: 107.2.165.58)
Time: September 3, 2011, 9:48 pm

Arguing with shombies is for noobs.

Comment from noob   (IP: 75.70.74.252)
Time: September 4, 2011, 10:12 am

Yeah, its my too-favorite rule for breaking.

Comment from Gina   (IP: 88.134.172.185)
Time: September 29, 2011, 6:29 am

this is the limit !!!!
sooo tasteless…

Comment from Brother Jonah   (IP: 75.70.193.154)
Time: September 29, 2011, 10:59 am

Tasteless isn’t a crime, although we’ve been threatened with street-level death penalty for it.

If there were limits on free speech based on how offensive it is, the entire Madison Ave/Wall Street/Military Industrial Complex would be lined up in front of a belt fed, water cooled machine gun for their commercials… including the incredibly violent video games like “Call of Duty” in all its incarnations, especially the new “Home Front” edition where you get points for murdering Americans in America.

It started out as a user modification where the modder actually boasted that he got points for burning Homeless People.
Although he is probably too chickenshit to do it himself, it does foster the mindset that people who are declared “Not Real Americans” should be killed, and, the ones who promote that particular madness know that they can count on some meth-moron like Jared Laughner will do it for them.

Then they’ll get all upset and say it’s “Blood Libel” to point that fact out to them.

The same people who wired up that anti-American Terrorist make a whole lot of money peddling Hate in the name of 9/11, they’ve got thousands of Americans killed and a literally uncounted number of citizens of other nations killed, and made a profit off each and every death, starting with the deaths of the people in the Towers.

You see, unlike a “tasteless” reminder of their guilt in those murders-for-profit, the murders and thefts from which they profit ARE crimes.
And all they have to do to get away with their continual murder spree is to have morons chant “9/11!” every time their guilt is pointed out.

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