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Israeli ‘Hasbara’ spam alert

HasbaraRemember when the defense department was paying public relations companies and Iraqi newspapers to insert articles praising the Iraq war? The companies also attempted to plant coverage favorable to the US military in US newspapers. There rightly was a media uproar about the manipulation. We’ll see whether the same happens over this (Hasbara spamming of blogs?)

The (Israeli) foreign ministry shouldn’t get a pass on this one. It may view such hasbara as maximising its efforts to “explain” Israel’s position in the world media. I view it as a cynical attempt to flood the web and news media with favorable flackery in a vain attempt to tilt public opinion toward Israel. Not only does it do Israel a disservice, it stains every legitimate effort that the ministry might make to explain Israel to the world, since no one will believe a word it says knowing it engages in such outright propaganda.

Not to mention that this is such cheap pennyante stuff. What do they gain by this? How effective can it be and how many can be convinced? By the way, I’ve even noticed the hasbaraniks in my own blog. You can see them a mile away because they’ve never published a comment before yet write something like: “I’ve enjoyed your blog for a long time, but anyone with a brain in their head knows that Hamas is out to destroy Israel blah, blah blah.” Pretty formulaic stuff. Also, you can Google a few phrases of the comment and if you find it appears elsewhere on the web you know you either have a hasbaranik or someone who has repetition compulsion….

Full article about Israeli military spamming of antiZionist blogs can be read at Hasbara spam alert …See wikipedia for more about hasbara, otherwise known as Israeli military propaganda spamming.

As one can see by the fake ‘discussion’ by Israeli military spammers here on Not My Tribe, this Israeli suppression of free speech and discussion is a very real problem. We have to spend inordinate amounts of our own time just discussing with these spammers about what they actually are doing rather than talking about anything more political than that. They are extremely boring for us, and extremely boring to others, too. Quite simply they clutter up blogs with their gang graffiti, and that is really about all they are actually about.

And be sure to visit the REPORTING AND CREATING THE MESSAGE art of political ‘Jewish State’ spamming page of the Israel Hasbara Committee to get it from the horse’s mouth. See how dishonest all these spammers really are when they claim to be mere concerned citizens all alone by themselves, rather than a concentrated and coordinated Israeli governmental effort in support of the Israeli war machine. They are lying when they pretend that we are making it all up. They are lying for Israel and in support of its racist policies. They are lying in support of the murder of more Arab peoples. They are lying to steal yet more Palestinian land.

16 thoughts on “Israeli ‘Hasbara’ spam alert

  1. Lets’ see? We have 7 political spams on this site from The Machine already today, starting with one beginning at 4:30 in the morning our time. Anytime an anti-Zionist remark is made, the Israeli military spammer has responded in about 10 minutes or less!

    Using a software program like this to try defeat free speech inside the US shows how the Israeli military would be capable of just about any atrocity against those in the Occupied Territories.

  2. Guy doesn’t seem to ever sleep, does he?

    Or go to work or do any of those things a normal person would do.

    From 12:30 to 4:30 that’s only ummmm… you know, us “crazy” folks can’t do math or nothin’… 4 hours…

    Means if he slept the whole 4 hours he didn’t even have time to get up and “purge’ that Mexican Food he said he was eating before getting on the keyboard.

    But then, Normal flew out the window.

  3. ‘He’ doesn’t ever sleep because ‘he’ is not just one person. One internet identity and many people behind that one fake name… ‘Dan’, ‘Don’ or whatever it is for the moment.

  4. Yeah, I put that in the Lynne Stewart thread.

    How much do you want to bet we get called Crazy for it (again)?

  5. “another sign of israeli enlightenment: the press in israeli blacked out, or photoshopped out, photos of women elected officials in israel, to appease the israeli taliban”

    Wrong. A couple very marginal orthodox Jewish newspapers took out the pics of the women in the Israeli Cabinet, not the mainstream media in Israel. As you prolly don’t know, most Israeli Jews are secular, with orthodox Jews a small segment of the population. To extrapolate the entire Israeli media is engaged in some kind of conspiracy to deceive is, itself, deceptive and unfair. Publishing pictures of women is deemed immodest by the orthodox. Still, orthodox women are not forced to ride in the back seat of cars or wear burkas. Thanks though, for bringing positive attention to the Israeli Cabinet being enlightened in including women, which you don’t see elsewhere in the ME.

  6. Einstein was right to worry that Begin’s first trip to the US after seizing “New” Israel might be to garner support for his plans to dominate the Middle East. That Begin’s words and actions (at Deir Yassin and elsewhere) look/sounded fascist makes me wonder if the push going on now to convince the public that fascism is actually a left-wing ideology also means that their best weapon against criticism — is to accuse others of being an anti-Semite and thereby invoke the Holocaust, is surely a bane for the Zionists. To sit on the right side of the political spectrum alongside Hitler definitely takes some of the shine off their words. http://tinyurl.com/bwjvrc

  7. Gary, in the interest of historical context, you failed to mention that Begin’s “words and actions” were a direct result of Arab persecution and violence toward the Jews in Palestine in the 1920’s, 30’s an 40’s. You might have noted, for example, the Hebron Massacre of 1929 and the pogroms by the Arabs of 1936-39. You might have mentioned that the Palestinian leader at the time, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, collaborated with the Nazis and tried to implement a Final Solution plan to exterminate the Jews of the Middle East. You should also have mentioned that the British suppressed Jewish immigration at a time when Jews were being sent to concentration camps, making the British complicit in Nazi war crimes.

  8. Some frequently cited research by the DHS counter-terrorism panel appears in an e-book (now free!) that studies people like “Dan” and other right-wing authoritarians.

    The lack of independent thought seems to result from not passing out of the early, highly authoritarian parent/toddler relationship and into the give-and-take social world where ethical and intellectual skills become more highly developed.

    As Altemeyer says of them,

    “the research shows they are very aggressive, but why are they so hostile? Yes, experiments show they are almost totally uninfluenced by reasoning and evidence, but why are they so dogmatic? Yes, studies show the Religious Right has more than its fair share of hypocrites, from top to bottom; but why are they two-faced, and how come one face never notices the other? Yes, their leaders can give the flimsiest of excuses and even outright lies about things theyve done wrong, but why do the rank-and-file believe them? “

    I think youll find this book explains a lot about the enemies of freedom and equality. You think Im pulling your leg? Follow the link.

    http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

    And then there’s Oklahoma Corrections take on conservatives….

    “Change in the Conservative Personality Equals Change in the Offender with a Resultant Reduction in Recidivism” : “It appears that conservatism has pathological dimensions manifested in violence and distorted psycho-sexual development”. Or “McClosky (1958) noted that, “Conservatism is not the doctrine of the intellectual elite nor the more intelligent segment of the population, but quite the reverse. By every measure available to us, conservative beliefs are found most frequently among the uninformed, the poorly educated, and the less intelligent.”

    http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/ocjrc/95/950725C.HTM

    It may be low to laugh over someone else’s illness, but these bastards are such vile, self-righteous hypocrites that I have to admit to enjoying every bit. Enjoy!! 😉

  9. For your reading pleasure “Dan”:

    Homeless In Gaza
    From a Correspondent lately in Gaza ] Times UK, 1951

    “To most people the name of Gaza brings a picture of blind Samson pulling down the pillars of the house upon the Philistines and himself. To-day the reputed tomb of Samson is inhabited by a family of Arab refugees. They form part of the horde of some 200,000 people from Palestine who poured into the ” Gaza Strip ” in 1948, during the troubles between the Arabs and Jews which broke out after the partition plan was announced. Many moved out under orders from their leaders, although im- plored to stay by Jews with whom they had been on friendly terms for years. Others, particularly the townspeople of Jaffa, were driven to flight by the brutality of the Irgun terrorists, and a massacre of innocent villagers at Dir Yassin, magnified by rumour, struck panic into the hearts of thousands.

    The refugees in the north gravitated to the Lebanon and Syria, those to the east to Judea, the Jordan valley, and Transiordan, while those in the south turned towards Gaza, which was held by the Egyptians and is now under military government. The ” Strip,” only 25 miles long and five miles wide, runs from Gaza to the Sinai frontier at Rafah.

    Last August the total number of Arab refugees receiving ations from the United Nations was 860,000, and because of the high birth-rate this number is steadily increasing. Roughly half of these are in the Kingdom of Jordan, a quarter in the Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq, and a quarter in Gaza.

    There are two alternatives possible for them-repatriation or re-settlement. In December, 1948, the United Nations Assembly resolved that “the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so.” The Arab League took its stand on this and insisted on the refugees’ repatriation as a condition of peace negotiations. It has since taken a more realistic view and, while still main- taining the principle of repatriation, has agreed that efforts shall be made to re- settle the refugees in the lands where they now are.

    RESETTLEMENT PLANS
    Extensive recommendations for resettle- rvent have been made by the Economic Survey Mission for the Middle East (the Clapp Commission), which has proposed the development of the econo- mic and natural resources of the Arab countries in cooperation with the Governments concerned. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency, now responsible for the maintenance of the refugees, has already begun to carry out some of these schemes, but has been unable to reach the targets set by the commission, among the reasons being the late start, the ime taken to interest refugees and Governments, the lack of funds, and the lack of opportunity for work in Gaza. The only exit from the Gaza Strip, which is hemmed in by Israel, is to Egypt, and there the refugees are not welcome.

    They are virtually imprisoned in the area, their only means of escape being a dangerous moonlight flit through Jewish territory. Meanwhile, 70,000 of them have crammed themselves into Gaza town, more than doubling its inhabitants. Over- crowded rooms are let at extortionate rents and those unable to afford them have taken to tents, makeshift shelters, even holes in the ground. On every bit of spare ground pitiable shacks can be seen, made of canvas, sacking boughs of trees, and bits of tin.

    Outside the town huge scattered camps have grown up round the villages and two former British Army camps. In Breij about 8,000 refugees are in tents or makeshifts and 6,000 in buildings of varying degrees of soundness. Many of these are large barracks with fairly sound walls and roofs but lacking doors and windows. Inside each is a honeycomb of 30 or 40 cubicles, divided by mud walls or partitions of blankets. In each cell live one, two, or three families, the lucky ones being those with a window. In the larders and kitchens of these ex-army canteens the refugees huddle among the sinks and stoves, and in the bathhouses they lie down to sleep among the showers or in the boiler rooms. Those under canvas have fared no better, for many tents which were in reasonable shape when issued quickly rotted in the rain and gales of winter, and total replacement was impossible.

    The tents, too, are over- crowded, and even the small ones are often divided by a canvas partition separating two families. Privacy, even by Arab standards, is impossible in such conditions. In addition, there is the corrosion of idleness and despair, eating into moral fibre and breeding bitterness and discontent.

    cont….

    http://tinyurl.com/ay6lcm

    Times UK, 1951

  10. Gary, I’m a registered Independent, but, you evidently need to acquire a greater understanding of the history of the Middle East, particularly, as it relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Having greater insight into the past might allow you to write more knowlegeably about the present.

  11. Stock response #659 “Pretend you have things in common so they’re more trusting of you, then (kindly – depending on the situation) suggest they are mistaken. If they ask where good info can be found….YOU”VE GOT THE BASTARD!”

    Sorry Dan. Ain’t going for it. I’ve forgotten more history than you’ve lived through.

  12. Gary, I’ve lived in the Middle East half my life. I study the Middle East. Have read probably 1,000 books on the subject. Studied under Bernard Lewis at Princeton. I have a wide circle of friends, Arab, Jewish, Druze, Turkish, Persian, etc. I know the issues in the Middle East. I have forgotten more than you’ll ever know. If you want to criticize Israel, you better know what you’re talking about or I’ll crush you like a flea.

  13. Gary, watch your step! Dan’s read probably 1,000 books on the Middle East. Unfortunately — and this is part of what he’s proudly forgotten — it’s the same book over and over!

  14. ‘If you want to criticize Israel, you better know what youre talking about or Ill crush you like a flea.’

    Dan, you arrogant nitwit, I for the life of me don’t know why we tolerate your spam bullshit like we do here? You’ve shown yourself as nothing more than a clown that defends torture use in the most assinine manner repeatedly. You are simple minded and boring rather than being a genius like you think yourself to be.

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