Armed Illegal Immigrants in Texas Shootout, holed up in a Church…

In a bizarre militant action, the “Volunteer Militia” shot it out with local government authorities in San Antonio, Texas and took refuge in a Catholic Church dating to the late 16th century, Mission San Antonio de Valero. They spouted Libertarian talk about the “unconstitutional” Abolition of Slavery and demanded that Texas secede from the national government and form an Independent Republic This attack is co-ordinated with other Terroristic attacks across Texas. Targets include military posts, Local tax officials and Catholic clergy.

OK so that was the unofficial but Very Real account of the Alamo.

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Brother Jonah

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Recovering Texan. Christian while and at the same time Anarchist. (like Tolstoy only without the beard, for now) Constantly on the lookout for things which have relevance to things I already know. Autistic. Proud to be Ex- air force. Out of the killing machine for 27 years 4 months and 5 days woohoo!
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6 Responses to Armed Illegal Immigrants in Texas Shootout, holed up in a Church…

  1. Avatar pcm says:

    Revisionist history. Not all the “volunteer militia” were illegal aliens. Most were tax paying citizens, both anglo and hispanic. Several issues were the cause for the uprising.

  2. Avatar Brother Jonah says:

    Yeah. What amazed me was, in the 7th grade Texas History book, even in the early 70s, pointed out that the Slavery issue was hot. That was my clue. So I run with it. It’s one of those things that if I win, I win big, if it flops around like a dying fish drowning on the dock, eh…

    Of course, and you knew there would be an “of course” the John Wayne movie lied about several things, at least according to the official history. Travis was supposed to burn the Alamo to the ground and split. After that it gets into Fuzzy Logic.

    Why would a roughneck like Bowie back him up on a stupid move like defending an adobe fort against Heavy cannon when Travis had just run Gen. Cos out of the same fort using Light cannon? Crockett who supposedly had more sense than both of them combined, backing their combined play.

    It’s the fuzzy unclear parts that allow me to make a mockery of Paid Historians. There’s one in particular who very recently posted a comment pushing his new Officially Sanctioned history book.
    I notice the official historians clique up about related “his story” type devices.

    History is about as subjective as art appreciation.

    I hope I’m doing it right.

  3. Avatar pcm says:

    Travis was a young diehard believer that he would buy Houston time. Bowie just lost his pregnant wife and whole family to cholera in September. He was injured and probably depressed. When you feel like you have nothing to live for, why not go out for a cause. Crockett, well who knows his motivation. Just speculation on my part.

  4. Avatar Brother Jonah says:

    See, now you’re in the spirit.
    Bowie supposedly got his legs broken putting up one of the cannon.

    Of course, one thing about the south is that people have some really entertaining family ties. Texas no exception. I’ve even supposedly got Jean LaFitte in my family. My great great great grandfather brought his family from Northern Alabama to Texas ahead of the forced migration, not by much. Right before the Texas revolution and somewhat after the Mexican. One of Stephen Austin’s colonies, a land grant he got actually from Lopez (de Santa Ana) that an oil company “owns” now.

    One other part that got me about the slavery aspect, was the notion that the Anglo settlers were losing property.

    They weren’t losing real estate, the Austin Colony grants and deeds are still being used in court cases. Lopez wanted MORE foreign investment, not less, so how much was he going to grab away from foreign settlers?

    So the one asset aside from land (lots of it) and cash (not as much of it), cattle was a Dead Industry at the time, no way to ship beef until after the Civil War, would have been slaves.

    Which a lot of heavy political hitters in the States wanted.

    Which again leaves subtleties.

    The “loss of property” was put up in Congress every time the abolition question came up. Abolishing slavery would be in effect taking away the “property” of their owners without compensation. Constitutional issue. It’s very relevant today because that’s what the Honduras Coup is all about. OH… more…

  5. Avatar pcm says:

    Napoleon of the West was a self promoting military politician. He was declared a hero based on driving the Spanish out of Mexico. He had a reputation of always placed himself on the winning side. When he was under the protection of the US after his defeat at San Jacinto, JR Poinsett, US minister to Mexico in 1824 said:
    “Say to General Santa Anna that when I remember how ardent an advocate he was of liberty ten years ago, I have no sympathy for him now, that he has gotten what he deserves.”
    Santa Anna replied, “Say to Mr. Poinsett that it is very true that I threw up my cap for liberty with great ardor, and perfect sincerity, but very soon found the folly of it. A hundred years to come my people will not be fit for liberty. They do not know what it is, unenlightened as they are, and under the influence of a Catholic clergy, a despotism is the proper government for them, but there is no reason why it should not be a wise and virtuous one. “

  6. Avatar Brother Jonah says:

    A lot like Jackson. With whom Crockett had his own feud going.

    Things that would seem only foibles in a person’s character when he’s poor and powerless, will be magnified beyond any proportion when he gains power.

    That sounds like something Twain wrote, but I can’t quite place it. I thought it was extemporaneous but I don’t usually talk 19th century. Might have been Tolstoy, the two seemed to have a like-mindedness when it came to dealing with The Powerful.

    What happens when the Mythos grows even larger after one is dead? And when that mythos is used to prop up unspeakable deeds. They did it to Jesus. Big difference being the Resurrection and the Second Coming bits. I mean, we KNOW beyond all certainty that Davey Crockett ain’t coming back.

    Jesus has at least some really scared. There was one historical novel or Hysterical Navel about Hitler being cloned many times over. “The Boys from Brazil”. A bit of deliberate mind manipulation from before the occupation about Saddam Hussein, that he had at least 6 body and face doubles. Leaves the impression that they might not have gotten the right one.
    Justifies “keeping an eye on things” for a while to come anyway.

    We do know, however, that Gen. Lopez ain’t coming back.

    Except as a propaganda tool. God knows we don’t have enough propaganda tools laying around.

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