Are Soldiers ‘baby killers’?

Are soldiers ‘baby killers’? This is an interesting question for many reasons, one of which is simply because nobody I know has ever actually used this particular accusation phrased in exactly this particular manner against US troops. But that doesn’t stop many Right Wingers from becoming absolutely hysterical against US Leftists when we open our mouths against THEIR wars, where they then go on to often accuse us Leftists of supposedly calling US soldiers ‘baby killers’.

That charge is some sort of high crime in their seemingly rather clueless heads, that leads the Right Wing mind to thinking it perfectly alright to personally threaten others with physical violence and demands from them to ‘shut you up’. It seems that to the Right Wing mind, the American troops trained to kill in battle are some sort of totally fragile and childlike creature that needs some sort of super special protection, or else the soldier will supposedly shatter into a million and one pieces under the effects of the rather mythical diagnosis of ‘PTSD’ that is now all the style to say that so many US soldiers have. Yes, the effects of being a US soldier wear hard on their often tiny little consciences, so we in the general public are simply told to shut up about talking about what their soldier ‘jobs’ actually consist of doing.

Curiously enough though, the charge that soldiers were ‘baby killers’ is just what the Pentagon itself used to start off its multiple assaults/WARS on the Iraqi people. Apparently the Pentagon itself thought nothing at the time, of accusing OTHER soldiers of being ‘baby killers’. However, the current Right Wing rabble seems to remember nothing about what I am referring to at all. Truly a spectacular case of selective amnesia by a KKK like mob! So let’s refer back to the Pentagon propaganda of the Poppy Bush Era, ala 1990…

…from the Christian Science Monitor comes this personal story of how the events of that time unfolded to one American, and how the Pentagon accused soldiers of being ‘baby killers’- Read below.

‘More than 10 years later, I can still recall my brother Sean’s face. It was bright red. Furious. Not one given to fits of temper, Sean was in an uproar. He was a father, and he had just heard that Iraqi soldiers had taken scores of babies out of incubators in Kuwait City and left them to die. The Iraqis had shipped the incubators back to Baghdad. A pacifist by nature, my brother was not in a peaceful mood that day. “We’ve got to go and get Saddam Hussein. Now,” he said passionately.

I completely understood his feelings. Although I had no family of my own then, who could countenance such brutality? The news of the slaughter had come at a key moment in the deliberations about whether the US would invade Iraq. Those who watched the non-stop debates on TV saw that many of those who had previously wavered on the issue had been turned into warriors by this shocking incident.

Too bad it never happened. The babies in the incubator story is a classic example of how easy it is for the public and legislators to be mislead during moments of high tension. It’s also a vivid example of how the media can be manipulated if we do not keep our guards up. The invented story eventually broke apart and was exposed.’ (excerpted from 'When contemplating war, beware of babies in incubators' )

Here is the history now of how the Pentagon charge that soldiers had ‘killed babies’ really was an excuse for the US to go and ‘kill babies’? Well, let’s leave that particular phrasing as a question mark for now, and go to wikipedia’s entry about this piece of rather recent US history…

(from wikipedia)- Nayirah (testimony) refers to the controversial testimony given before the non-governmental Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990, by a female who provided only her first name, Nayirah. In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.

Though reporters did not then have access to Kuwait, her testimony was regarded as credible at the time and was widely publicized. It was cited numerous times by United States senators and the president in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War.

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country and found the story of stolen incubators unsubstantiated. However, they did find that a number of people, including babies, died when nurses and doctors fled the country.

In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah’s last name was al-?aba? (Arabic: ???? ???????) and that she was the daughter of Saud bin Nasir Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah’s testimony has largely come to be regarded as wartime propaganda.’

So now we know that both the Pentagon and US government itself have accused soldiers FALSELY of being ‘baby killers’, but does that automatically mean that American Leftists do the same regarding US troops? No, it does not. Because it simply is not a falsehood to mention how the US troops sprayed Agent Orange all over Vietnam (including upon themselves), and that Agent Orange went onto to kill children and even babies, and continues to do this killing up to this very day.

Neither is it a lie to mention the use by US soldiers of their depleted uranium based weaponry in Iraq, where the radiation from this armament continues to kill children and even babies up to this very day, and maybe forward throughout decades into the future.

As participants in today’s Occupy Movement, we have a duty to patriotically tell the truth about our unrepresentative government and its military personnel’s actions. We are a Free Speech Movement if nothing else at all, and the efforts of a few Right Wingers (oftentimes aligned with Republican Far Rightist, Ron Paul’s campaign) to shut us up when we tell the truth about the US military cannot be allowed to go unchallenged inside Occupy. Yes, the actions of US troops do kill kids. In fact, often times CHILDREN are deliberately targeted by the Pentagon in the multiple covert actions that the US military is always engaged in. Children next to their parents are fair targets as far as the Pentagon soldier’s are concerned.

US troops do kill kids and efforts to stop that from being said are undemocratic and Right Wing in nature. People who desire to shut others up for speaking out against US militarist atrocities have no place in Occupy, and should never be allowed to speak for the Movement. Truth is, their simply is no way to create anything other than multiple ‘killers’ of children in the US soldier population, whose duties including invading and occupying other people’s nations. Truth is.

Time to examine what you are actually doing, US Soldier. In your multiple conversations with us, you yourself have stated over and over and over again, that you will simple mindedly shoot first and ask any and all questions later…. no matter what carnage you might create for the children you come into contact with. Let’s clearly label what your job is.

And Right Wingers out there among the US soldiers, you take your orders from a government and military that FALSELY labeled soldiers as supposedly having ‘killed babies’. So what’s your beef with me, Tony the Lefty? That I told the truth about what’s actually going on??? If so, then what the Hell are you doing in the Occupy Movement?

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13 Responses to Are Soldiers ‘baby killers’?

  1. Avatar Hell No says:

    Oh Really?

  2. Avatar Gilda says:

    Who do you think kills them? Y’all do know killing babies is a war crime. Speaking out about it is a moral responsibility, not a crime, and free speech.

  3. Avatar James says:

    Logan, what you are discussing is called enemy image creation. It is a process now mastered by the presses and governments of the world. Mister Pulitzer and his brood of yellow journalists were especially skilled in the art.

    However, I will say this, children die in every war. The lives of the innocent and un-involved have hardly ever been spared in human history. Your and my modern sensibility that infanticide is a specific indicator of how ‘bad’ a war is judged is at least as sign of our moral progress—least as much as I hope.

    However, Tony that part about the military specifically targeting children is far-fetched and dubious. I’m a military man–so I know my own brood well enough. Shit bags are shit bags but my imagination is hard pressed to imagine such a claim being valid. We make mistakes and people, good people die, and there are others among us who are not fit for the profession. This I will concede to you.

  4. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    Actually, James, I do NOT charge that the US militarily specifically targets children. What would be the purpose of doing that? However, the US military specifically does target adults without any regard as to the children that might also die in their operations. To say that it does that in no way is a far fetched and dubious conclusion at all, and we see repeated examples of children being slaughtered by US forces as a result of this callous disregard about the children living in target areas. In short, US military personnel and the commanders in chief presidents and vice presidents, have repeatedly chosen to kill their adult targets even when thousands of children also die as a result of this.

  5. Avatar James says:

    “often times CHILDREN are deliberately targeted by the Pentagon in the multiple covert actions that the US military is always engaged in”. Again, war is an awful thing, but children die in urban environments–this is a reality of that kind of warfare. What remains however, is that you did in fact make the charge of infant-targeting. Try not to use sensationalism, your integrity is the only thing no one can ever take from you.

  6. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    I am so damn sick of you faux ‘patriot’ numbskulls who always want to somehow protect US troops from criticism of their activities. The US military does knowingly targets adults in areas where they are surrounded by their families, including small children and babies. One would have to be a moron not to know that by now.

    That means that the US military knowingly targets kids, though not kids all alone by themselves Why don’t you Right Wingers grow up and get real about this?

  7. Avatar Raven says:

    The troops fight for us abroad, you damn well better believe that I am gonna fight for our Troops at home!

  8. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    Actually, Raven, for you as a Muslim to think that the US corporation troops are fighting for YOU is pretty damn weird. How did you get so mish-mashed up in your beliefs as you are?

  9. Avatar Raven says:

    I got where I am by education and experience, something you lack! I don’t walk around listening to propaganda BS, I know what I have lived! If you had a clue about either Islam or American Troops, you wouldn’t find it so weird!

  10. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    Good. If you are so damn educated then explain to us just what the similarity is between Islam and US militarism in your confused mind, Raven?

  11. Avatar Raven says:

    First off, your attempt at twisting my words so you actually have something to attack is pathetic and shows how weak your argument is! Second, I did not say that the 2 were similiar, I simply stated that if you understood “either Islam or American Troops, you wouldn’t find it so weird”. That is not a comparison of the two, but rather a statement of fact; you dont have a clue about Islam, and you dont have a clue about American Troops!

  12. Avatar Airplane Pilot says:

    Hey Tony! Did you enjoy your stay in a Turkish prison?

  13. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    Raven, you and Airplane Head sure have a way of saying absolutely NADA in your posts. I suggest that the two of you get a life and write to this blog only if you can discuss any current event issues with others in a sane manner.

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