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Churchill v Churchill

ward-churchillClosing arguments will be heard this morning in the Ward Churchill trial and then the case goes to the (very young and earnest) jury.

Winston Churchill said “history is written by the victors” which has been a central thesis in much of Ward Churchill’s work. It’s scrumptiously ironic that when Ward Churchill wins his case against CU, he’ll become a contributor to the “Master Narrative” he so despises. I’m guessing his chapter will be full of tales of brave Indiginists and murdering technocrats, white male regents and the soulless women who love them. Academia will be recast as the valiant protector of the ruling elite and the mighty slayer of free thought and open debate. The jury of young, multiracial unsophisticates will be consecrated as puissant defenders of justice. A few vindictive ex-wives and some illicit boys’ room puffing may be tossed in to add color.

When Ward Churchill prevails against the esteemed institution that called into question his academic integrity, his reputation as a scholar and a brilliant polemicist will be restored. More importantly, the master narrative will no longer be inscrutable.

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
— W. Churchill

25 thoughts on “Churchill v Churchill

  1. What, the current Israeli military sniper here firing away at NMT wrote a whole sentence on something other than theme, Israel is lovely and can do no wrong? Or did they?

  2. Actually the “Little Eichmann” comment was an assessment fully grounded in his scholarship. Read Hannah Arendt’s Eichmann in Jerusalem and you will understand the comparison Churchill drew between a mousy bureaucrat who was completely detached from the consequences of his particular function and the functionaries of profit maximization that worked for the investment houses in the wtc. It’s a comparison that is easy to dismiss without actually examining it, but once you do, the validity of the argument Mr. Churchill’s essay posed is one to consider.

  3. Wouldn’t know it to hear you or any of the other Rabid Defenders of IDF tell it.

    That whole “My Country, Right or Wrong” shit doesn’t fly as philosophy.

    It’s Anti-Intelligence at its worst.

    What’s even more offensively stupid is when we’re told we have to accept the word of a Puppet “my country” as though it were the Word of God Almighty and beyond question.

    If you really want to go after offensive propaganda, there’s the notion that 9/11 was Religious Persecution against White Christian and Jewish Males, because White Christians and Jews worship money.

    Although some don’t.

    Problem with that is that it’s being put out by White Christians and Jews.

    “Oh, we are so very persecuted” blah blah blah blah…

    But, 9/11 really WAS the destruction of The New Temple…

    A temple dedicated to the worship of the Yankee Dollar.

    They even call it “The Almighty”.

    Even though it is literally a Graven Image.

    Dan, do you ever study the Christian scriptures?

    Like when the guy tries to get Him hanged either by the Romans for tax defiance or by the Zealots for tax collaboration…

    “is it lawful to pay the tribute to Caesar or no?”

    Jesus asked him to show Him the tax money, and the guy whoops out with a Roman Penny…. a Graven Image of a man who said he was a god…

    I would bet that the Roman Collaborator afterward ran as fast as his chubby little legs could carry him so the Zealots wouldn’t put a knife between his ribs.

    See, that’s the REAL Jewish and Christian attitude toward Capitalism.

    Incidentally, the word wasn’t in use yet but the Zealots would be described as “Terrorists” by not only the U.S. State Department and Military but also by their puppets in the Knesset and IDF.

    In fact if the U.S. and Israeli “authorities” were to judge themselves by the same measure they judge Hamas they would call THEMSELVES “terrorists”.

    If they compared themselves to Hitler and did it in an honest manner the self-indictment would be far worse than anything Ward Churchill EVER said or wrote.

    Of course we’ll remember your words the next time you give us some bullshit about how you or your Military Masters “fight for Freedom of Speech” or any other human right.

    You sure seem to be jumping right in with the Official Government Punishment of Dr. Churchill.

    I don’t know how you could twist that round to “defending free speech” but you’ll do your best to twist it round, won’t you?

    All the OTHER Right Wing Military types do.

  4. “Wouldn’t know it to hear you or any of the other Rabid Defenders of IDF tell it.”

    That may be because you and the other rabid critics of Israel naturally force Israel-sympathizers to come to Israel’s defense. Piling on is not fair. I don’t know any pro-Israel people who say Israel is without missteps or that certain policies are wrong. However, I think you would be hardpressed to say anything positive about Israel.

  5. “That whole “My Country, Right or Wrong” shit doesn’t fly as philosophy.”

    I don’t know one person who is pro-Israel who says Israel is always right. And, there really is a vigorous debate among Israelis about bad moves over the years. Criticism of the government is allowed in Israel.

    “What’s even more offensively stupid is when we’re told we have to accept the word of a Puppet “my country” as though it were the Word of God Almighty and beyond question”

    Israeli Jews are largely secular, although, there are religious, even messianic, groups, though, they are in the minority. I. myself, am not religious.

    “If you really want to go after offensive propaganda, there’s the notion that 9/11 was Religious Persecution against White Christian and Jewish Males, because White Christians and Jews worship money.”

    That’s ironic because about 20% of Israelis are living below the poverty level.

    “Dan, do you ever study the Christian scriptures?”

    No, but, I prolly should.

    “See, that’s the REAL Jewish and Christian attitude toward Capitalism.”

    Wasn’t Karl Marx Jewish?

    “In fact if the U.S. and Israeli “authorities” were to judge themselves by the same measure they judge Hamas they would call THEMSELVES “terrorists”.

    I don’t disagree, however, much of the violence and hatred directed toward Jews in Israel and elsewhere is ideologically based.

    “Of course we’ll remember your words the next time you give us some bullshit about how you or your Military Masters “fight for Freedom of Speech” or any other human right.”

    I try not to speak bullshit. I have purposely immersed myself in Middle Eastern history so that I can speak from actual fact rather than bullshit. Bullshit does not help anyone.

    “You sure seem to be jumping right in with the Official Government Punishment of Dr. Churchill.”

    You are closer to the situation with Churchill. If the charges about compromised academic integrity are true, regarding alleged plagiarism, etc., then he should be fired. Otherwise, he should be allowed to say whatever he wants as long as it doesn’t incite violence.

    “All the OTHER Right Wing Military types do.”

    I’m more moderate politically and am a registered Independent. I wouldn’t consider myself a military type, although, it’s a necessary thing to have.

  6. ‘That may be because you and the other rabid critics of Israel naturally force Israel-sympathizers to come to Israel’s defense. Piling on is not fair.’

    Oh, boo-hoo-who? The nice Israeli military guy is faced with growling, frothing rabid dogs of the Left! How will he defend his poor self? It’s just not fair! Boo-hoo-hoo…

  7. “Oh, boo-hoo-who? The nice Israeli military guy is faced with growling, frothing rabid dogs of the Left! How will he defend his poor self? It’s just not fair! Boo-hoo-hoo…”

    It’s very easy defending Israel when you are involved. I just wish you were more of an intellectual challenge.

  8. Didn’t Churchill give away Palestine to those nasty Jews? Oh, sorry, wrong Churchill.

  9. Andy, the only thing that the Israeli spam propagandists know is their love of Jewish dominant Apartheid. That’s their entire game to machine gun military crap onto blogs such as this one and they get paid to do so just like Pentagon propagandists do, also. Didn’t Chinche tell you this himself? Just read what he just said….

    ‘It’s very easy defending Israel when you are involved.’

    Dumb A-hole Star of David Army dude is what he really is. Gunning for his idea of the superior race! Having him come online all the time makes the blog about as boring as when ‘George’ the J$P infiltrator cop was spamming us. Except ‘George’ had more integrity.

  10. Notice***

    The Internet Megaphone IDF spammers have an automatic alert on their system since when something is writ they are on it inside a minute with their spam!
    ———————————————————————-
    OK, Stupid Dan the Israeli Military Whore, here is the orgiinal exhannge that got us back to your pet theme as you so desired…

    You, for the IDF Supreme Racists- ‘Yes, his “Little Eichmann” remark was very scholarly.’

    Comment from Tony Logan afterwards… (IP: 67.174.176.209)
    Time: April 1, 2009, 9:46 am

    What, the current Israeli military sniper here firing away at NMT wrote a whole sentence on something other than theme, Israel is lovely and can do no wrong? Or did they?

    Comment from Dan Chinitz (IP: 96.242.99.117)
    Time: April 1, 2009, 10:14 am

    You are too defensive. Israel has done wrong things, like probably every country.
    ————————————————————-
    My comment for you, Spammer, now once again…

    GO FUCK YOURSELF, clown!

  11. My first post addressed Ward Churchill, with no mention of Israel, the ostensible focus of this thread. The second post from you brought up Israel.

  12. I would have done the same thing if you had responded to a Darfur commentary, too. You doofusses over at the IDF offices have a very limited political repertoire, and Churchill, GWOT, and Darfur are part of your ‘Israel is lovey stuff’, too. That and making sporadic hate comments about Muslims. You are as predictable as a clock! Ain’t you?

  13. Again with “you people” I’m watching TV in New York eating some Mexican food. You are way off in left field with your silly Jewish conspiracies.

  14. That’s what the last umpteen IDF pseudo identities here all had to say, too. They all said that I’m seeing imaginary Black helicopters dropping White Phosphorus on us ..lol…

    Do you enjoy scratching your own papaya, Dude? … in Jew York City? What a group of IDF bozo clowns you people are!

    The Big Apple as Holy Land for IDF spammers? Too funny! You should try my Falafel Burrito, ‘Dan’! It’s delicioso!

  15. We forced you to come here?

    When and how?

    Not surprising that you’re in New York far from the battle.

    ChickenHawks usually do that.

    Must be some kind of spinal disorder, like not having one or merely having a large badly discolored yellow rash on it that shows through the skin.

    But we “forced” the Megaphone people to attack us.

    Kind of like that kid in the picture “Gaza Child Photo” found elsewhere on this site, the kid must have forced the IDF Gunmen to blow him or her away like that.

    I hear tell those pre-K children can be extremely vicious.

    Incidentally, Dan, the New York theme fits right in because the portal in question with the Megaphone people, all seemingly independent and motivated only by the unjust persecution of the IDF Thugs, and their Independent Rage at such bad treatment of the Puppet Storm Troopers, and all exclaiming in total agreement (purely coincidental of course) That IDF had not committed ANY crimes, IDF even said so, and they, like you, coincidentally back up that opinion with stories sourced directly from IDF.

    All these people parroting each other, chanting Four Legs Good, Criticizing IDF Baaaaaadddd!!!…

    Had to be using the same computer simultaneously.

    IP addresses don’t lie.

    We had in less than 10 minutes 5 “different” Trolls supposedly not related to each other and not knowing each other, post 5 “different” opinions From The Same IP Address.

    But you see, Dan, that’s a physical impossibility.

    Unless of course the IP address, which is the address identifier of a Single Computer, is networked in some way.

    Otherwise they would have to have been sitting on each others’ laps.

    Pretty amazing for people who say they never met each other.

    The portal address was in New Jersey, right across the river from New York City, in fact at a warehouse district very near the river.

    Now, Dan, far be it from me to say you or they were lying about being interconnected in any way…

    So I’ll let that IP address and the physical impossibility of that happening without a direct Software AND hardware connection between the different persons, posting at the same time.

    I won’t call you a Liar, Dan.

    The technology that made your attacks possible calls you a Liar.

  16. Liebermann is now breaking all treaties with the Palestinians, saying that the Netanyahu Regime isn’t legally obligated or bound to honor agreements made by former Knessets.

    Amazingly like the Treaty Breaking that Churchill was fired for reporting as the Historical Fact that it actually is.

    That would be the treaties signed by representatives of the United States Congress and subsequently broken… repeatedly and bloodily, by subsequent government agents.

    If you want to make a difference in how Israel is portrayed in the reporting of the misdeeds of its government representatives, then Emigrate to Israel, become an Israeli Citizen and vote against Murderous Coward Scum like Bibi and Lieberman.

    Other than making such a fundamental change in the way the Truth is, you’ll not be able to much influence how the Truth is reported.

    Not with IDF censorship of the news on the ground in Gaza nor by flooding sites such as this with Pro-StormTrooper propaganda.

    There’s not enough Lies in the world to cover the blood spilt.

    And there never was.

    Take a hint from the people persecuting the Truth Tellers like Churchill.

    They’ve been doing YOUR type of suppression for the past 400 years.

    500+ counting the Spanish Conquest.

    But the Truth keeps coming back.

  17. “Incidentally, Dan, the New York theme fits right in because the portal in question with the Megaphone people, all seemingly independent and motivated only by the unjust persecution of the IDF Thugs, and their Independent Rage at such bad treatment of the Puppet Storm Troopers, and all exclaiming in total agreement (purely coincidental of course) That IDF had not committed ANY crimes, IDF even said so, and they, like you, coincidentally back up that opinion with stories sourced directly from IDF.”

    Huh? Why are you speaking gibberish?

  18. “If you want to make a difference in how Israel is portrayed in the reporting of the misdeeds of its government representatives, then Emigrate to Israel, become an Israeli Citizen and vote against Murderous Coward Scum like Bibi and Lieberman.”

    No can do. Got a rent controlled apartment here. I’m golden.

  19. Rent Controlled meaning you’ve been there for forty years.

    Or you bought the lease agreement sometime during that span.

    I guess it must be the “golden” color of your spine and intestinal tract.

    Too bad about your personal integrity and moral courage issues.

    Since you’re currently engaged mostly with Tony on the subject of the Megaphone and the use of one Internet Protocol Address to funnel several “separate” opinions from several “unrelated and unconnected” people directly to this website, I can hardly assume that you would be so ignorant of the Megaphone Issue that you would consider any reference to it as “gibberish”

    Actually, “Dan” Internet Protocol Addresses are so basic to the Internet itself being a functional entity, that it’s also very easy to check out what I’m saying.

    Maybe the targets of your “you must be off your meds” remarks to Tony and your pretense of not understanding the references, would be people who are stupid enough to believe what your Leaders tell you to say.

    If something as basic as IP masquerading is “gibberish” to you, “Dan”, perhaps you understand enough of the English Language and the use of search engines to Look It Up.

    Maybe, too, you can look at the articles to which you’re responding, including the giyus website whence originates the software.

    Meanwhile, we invite everybody to research this and not just accept your diagoses of it as “madness” “paranoia” “off Medication” and “Gibberish”.

    I invite them to look at the facts of the matter and at your ad-hominem or worse yet ad-genera attacks against those who oppose your Lies as “crazy”.

    You know, see which one stands the test of Truth and Verifiable Fact?

  20. IDF ‘Dan’, continuing your multiple posts in strings shows us all that you are purely interested in trashing the site. We’ll have to moderate you out totally once again if you continue doing this against us, Sirs.

    I might add that this will be about the unpteenth time that the Israeli spam machine has done this to us, too. The goal is simply to suppress free speech for others, put a smoke screen about what your are up to, and stifle all antiZionist commentary. You simply hate free speech since it helps expose what your military propaganda apparatus is all about.

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