Gaza Story

sabra_shatila_massacres The BBC’s Ghosts of 1948 haunt Gaza crisis shows the absolute vindictiveness of many Jewish Israelis who live on the land of the ancestors of those now bombed in Gaza by their army. Is this ‘Holocaust denial’, or what? (The picture is of victims of the Jewish pogrom against Palestinians done at the Sabra and Shatila massacres in 1982)

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  1. Avatar Don says:

    More misrepresentation:

    According to the BBC, the following occurred with regard to the Sabra and Shatila massacre:

    The slaughter was carried out by fighters from the Lebanese Forces militia (LF), linked to the Christian Phalange group, who were hungry for revenge for the killing of the Phalange leader Bashir Gemayel in a car bomb two days earlier…

    Mr Sharon declared that ‘2,000 terrorists’ remained in Palestinian refugee camps around Beirut. Sabra and Shatila were surrounded by Israeli tanks and soldiers, with checkpoints to monitor the entry or exit of any person.

    But on the afternoon of 16 September about 150 LF fighters moved into the camps…

    Survivors say that the killers went from house to house, threatening to blow up buildings if the residents did not come out.

    The survivors reported overhearing the Phalangists telling one another to use axes to kill their victims, because the sound of gunfire would alert others to their fate…

    Mr Sharon resigned his post after an Israeli commission of inquiry established that he bore indirect responsibility for the deaths for ‘having disregarded the danger of acts of vengeance’ by the militias when he allowed them into the camps.

    The Kahane Commission inquiry said LF intelligence chief Elie Hobeika had direct responsibility, because he ordered the killings.

    Mr Hobeika denied involvement in the killings right up to his death in a car bomb attack on 24 January 2002.

    Without doubt, the massacre was a terrible atrocity and it was unjustifiable. Blaming Israel for a massacre carried out by the Phalangists distorts what happened. Israel made an error in allow the Phalangists into the camp. But Israel did not know that the Phalangists would carry out a massacre.

  2. Avatar Ronald Goff says:

    It’s terrible how the Palestinians were so abused in the Gaza war with Israel..

  3. Avatar Ronald Goff says:

    Ambulances hijacked by Hamas and Palestinians executed without trial. Just an average day in Gaza.

  4. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    The Phalangists are a fascist unit that were basically Arab employees of the Israelis, and ‘Don’ knows full well that Israelis coordinated and directed the Plalangist slaughter at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Once again he dishonestly refuses to admit any and all Israeli crimes.

    Jews by definition cannot commit crimes in his opinion, unless….. well unless they oppose Zionism.

    ‘Ronald’, the spitting image of ‘Don’, brings us 2 propaganda sources, one of which is from a Zionist Jewish paper inside Israel and the other a Murdoch owned paper (think Fox Gnews here) in Australia.

    Here is what Amnesty International says about Israel and its multiple and deliberate attacks on medical personnel trying to save the lives of Palestinians civilians.

    Attacks on ambulance workers in Gaza

    AI gives the lie to the likes of ‘Don Ronald’ speaking for the Israeli Internet Megaphone Propaganda Broadcasting System.

  5. Avatar Don says:

    Tony Logan,

    Two things:

    1) The Phalangists are a right-of-center group, even authoritarian. The Library of Congress’s Country Study states, “Phalangist ideology has been on the right of the political spectrum. Although it has embraced the need to “modernize,” it has always favored the preservation of the sectarian status quo.” Today, the Phalangists have much less influence than they did in the past. Unfortunately, rather than moderate elements filling the void, much of that void has been filled by Hezbollah.

    2) Israel did not coordinate or direct the massacre. Israel was found to have been indirectly responsible by the Kahane Commission’s investigation, as Israel should have reasonably expected that the intense rivalry between the Palestinians and Phalangists, past interactions among them, and recent developments, had created a risk of reprisals by the Lebanese Forces (a combination of Phalangists and some other Christian elements in Lebanon). Neglicence/indirect responsibility, of course, is not the same thing as directing or coordinating the massacre.

  6. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    The Kahan Commission (???? ???), formally known as the Commission of Inquiry into the Events at the Refugee Camps in Beirut, was established by the Israeli government on 28 September 1982, to investigate the Sabra and Shatila Massacre (16 September-18 September, 1982). The Kahan Commission was chaired by the President of the Supreme Court, Yitzhak Kahan. Its other two members were Supreme Court Judge Aharon Barak, and Major-General (res.) Yona Efrat.

    ‘Don’, that would be the Israeli government ‘investigating’ itself, right? Quite impressive stuff you send us! …lol…

  7. Avatar Don says:

    Tony Logan,

    The Kahane Commission has done the most extensive review of the massacre.

    To date, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) has not taken up the case, much less convicted Israel or any Israeli officials for the Sabra and Shatila massacre.

  8. Avatar Ronald Goff says:

    Not sure if Amnesty Int’l condemned Hamas for stealing ambulances to use for military purposes, but, Hamas did just that.

  9. Avatar Tony Logan says:

    I’m being attacked by a two headed hydra monster! Socorro!

  10. Avatar M Lusini says:

    If Sharon thought there might be 2000 terrorists still hiding in the camps then why sending 150 LF fighters. Why didn’t he order the IDF to take control of the situation. some of those personnaly responsible and participated in the slaughter are still living openly in lebanon and some of them boast about the masacre. why isnt there a direct Tribunal to bring to court all of those who did the killing just the same as the the tribunal after WW2 and other courts who put on trial Nazi’s and antisemits.

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