Indigenous Palestinians are not really even second class citizens within the ‘Jewish Apartheid State since certain elements of the Jewish community are given second class status themselves. Even calling Israel’s Palestinians Third Class citizens is kind of a stretch since they correctly believe and feel that the Jewish community will try to expel them at the first opportune moment. Discrimination against their culture, heritage, religion, and language is everywhere. Israel’s forgotten Palestinians Israel is a classic colonialist Apartheid State. Even the rather conservative ex-Prez Jimmy Carter can see and admit that.
Not My Tribe
The Myth of Middle Ground
Palestinian culture? Religion? Language? Pallies are re-branded Arabs with no distinct Palestinian religion or Palestinian language and really no distinct Palestinian culture. And, if they feel deprived in Israel, perhaps they’d be happier relocated in an Arab dictatorship. Hey, guys,the emigration line forms to the right.
Israel does not engage in Apartheid and it never has. The Library of Congress’ Country Study on South Africa details South Africa’s Apartheid era laws.
The relevant section follows:
The Population Registration Act (No. 30) of 1950 provided the basis for separating the population of South Africa into different races. Under the terms of this act, all residents of South Africa were to be classified as white, coloured, or native (later called Bantu) people. Indians, whom the HNP in 1948 had refused to recognize as permanent inhabitants of South Africa, were included under the category “Asian” in 1959. The act required that people be classified primarily on the basis of their “community acceptability”; later amendments placed greater stress on “appearance” in order to deal with the practice of light-colored blacks “passing” as whites. The act also provided for the compilation of a population register for the whole country and for the issuing of identity cards.
Other laws provided for geographic, social, and political separation. The Group Areas Act (No. 41) of 1950 extended the provisions of the Natives Land Act (No. 27) of 1913, and later laws divided South Africa into separate areas for whites and blacks (including coloureds), and gave the government the power to forcibly remove people from areas not designated for their particular racial group. The Tomlinson Commission in 1954 officially concluded that the areas set aside for Africans would support no more than two-thirds of the African population even under the best of conditions, but the government ignored its recommendation that more land be allocated to the reserves and began removing Africans from white areas.
The Prohibition of Mixed Marriages Act (No. 55) of 1949 made marriages between whites and members of other racial groups illegal. The Immorality Act (No. 21) of 1950 extended an earlier ban on sexual relations between whites and blacks (the Immorality Act [No. 5] of 1927) to a ban on sexual relations between whites and any non-whites. The Bantu Authorities Act (No. 68) of 1951 established Bantu tribal, regional, and territorial authorities in the regions set out for Africans under the Group Areas Act, and it abolished the Natives Representative Council. The Bantu authorities were to be dominated by chiefs and headmen appointed by the government. The government also sought in 1951 to remove coloured voters in the Cape from the common roll onto a separate roll and to require that they elect white representatives only (Separate Representation of Voters Act [No. 46] of 1951). The Supreme Court immediately declared the act invalid on constitutional grounds, but after a long struggle it was successfully reenacted (the Separate Representation of Voters Amendment Act [No. 30] of 1956).
By no reasonable criteria does Israel even begin to approach policies along those lines. Israel has never embraced any of South Africa’s Apartheid policies.
Ron’s argument is only ‘Fuck ’em’ and he never tires of repeating it because he’s not too bright.
Don, you are a little bit more together than that though. You are the lawyer and other is the thug. Don wants us to quibble over the word ‘Apartheid’ and try to make any of us who would use the word in relationship to Israel meet some 1:1 exactness standard with the old White South Africa. Don would have us reject the notion that the Jews of Israel are engaged in a racial cleansing project even though the government claims itself to be the Jewish State! Don, you like Alberto Gonzalez and have just as difficult a job to do as he did.
Alberto had to make an illegal act, torture, legal, while you have to convince that a State built on the expulsion of non-Jews is not an Apartheid project. Good luck, Boys!
And, Don and Ron, you really do make a cute pair when you are together as you are.
Tony,
Israel was not built on the principle of “the expulsion of non-Jews.” The partition plan on which the shared rights of the region’s Jewish and Arab residents were accommodated did not call for “expulsion.”
Furthermore, that 23.6% of Israel’s population is non-Jewish, most of whom are Arabs, dispels the myth that Israel seeks what you call “racial cleansing.” Finally, in the just concluded elections, Arab parties won 11 seats in the Knesset. Neither of those outcomes would be possible if Israel sought ethnic cleansing.
11 seats in the Knesset! Oh, Whoopee!
It’s funny. Prior to 1967, there were no Palestinians. The Arabs living in Gaza are just Arabs, like the ones that reside in Jordan, Lebannon, Egype, etc.
Arabs in Palestine started calling themselves Palestinaisn for PR purposes. Therefore they have no provable right to live in the Gaza strip or the West Bank.
When you draw comparisons between Israel and S. Africa (apartheid) and even Israel and Nazi Germany (genocide), then you lose the privilege of being taken seriously.
>It’s funny. Prior to 1967, there were no Palestinians. The Arabs living in Gaza are just Arabs, like the ones that reside in Jordan, Lebannon, Egype, etc.
Arabs in Palestine started calling themselves Palestinaisn for PR purposes. Therefore they have no provable right to live in the Gaza strip or the West Bank.
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.”
Zuhair Mohsen, former PLO leader
Yeah, right. …lol… Palestine never existed and it was all swamp land populated by alligators and nomadic camel herders until the Glorious Jewish people arrived to turn it back into a Garden of Eden for God. Don’t you idiots ever get tired of blabbing out the same nonsense over and over?
>Don’t you idiots ever get tired of blabbing out the same nonsense over and over?”
Don’t you?
The latest on the ruthless torture and murder of Palestinians…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/13/hamas-gaza-murders-abduction-torture
‘Mitch’, you have evidently been replaced by Arab nom de guerres by IDF Propaganda Command HQ when they post their propaganda at NMT. That’s a bitch! We want those Anglicized names once again… so that you can pretend to be Good Ol’ Boys.
Tony. After living for over 20 years in Arab villages of the Galilee, I can only ask where your info comes from. I invite you to visit here and tour ‘aparthied Israel’, but you might have to dodge all of the BMW’s and Mercedes, as you wind your way between the Villas in these villages. Villages such as Dir El Assad, Madjdal Crum, the Bedouin village of Comun (where I am sitting type this), amongst many others. I will personally guide you, have you meet my many friends in these villages. Till then, all I can say is that you are doing much harm both Arabs and Jews. What really interests me is if you are doing this out of blind hatred, ignorance, or want of attention. My offer still stands.
Yes, I am scared that I would be run over by all those Palestinians driving luxury cars over in the Holy Land! Thanks, Humphrey for alerting the world to this form of terrorism created by Israel. Instead of a Wall, the Jews should have built an autobahn for all those racing rich Palestinians to drive their luxury cars on. Oh well…
Yeah, Hump… you sounded a lot like that Mississippi sheriff after using dogs, firehoses, and clubs to break up a civil rights rally… “All ouah Nigras wuz perfectly happy with segregation, until all these here Outside Agitators came down here sturrin’ things up”.
It doesn’t really help your position any that the IDF kills people, blockades medicine and food from a Sovereign Nation, meaning Gaza…
So what DOES The Wall accomplish, Hump?
Looking at the recent IDF murder spree in Gaza one can assume that it’s to keep all the Palestinians in one place so you can more easily exterminate them when Bibi Netanyahu calls for the final Final Solution against them.
And you know what? Not only can one assume that, I’m just going to do exactly that.
You can just go ahead and pretend that your occupation isn’t an occupation. That the ghetto you’re building for the people of Palestine isn’t actually a ghetto, that the children your Army murdered aren’t actually dead.
Shit, the U.S. Army makes the same ludicrous statements about “liberation” instead of “conquest and occupation”.
I was going to say something like “Hey, hey, IDF, how many kids did you kill today?” but that’s too easy so i won’t.
Instead, see if you can recognize your statement in this snippet from a turn of the 19th/20th century (CE) song about segregation…
“Oh the sun shines bright
on my old Kentucky home,
it’s summer
and the darkies are gay…”