As a Jew, an American and a mother, I felt compelled to witness, firsthand, what my people and my taxdollars had done during this invasion. Visiting Gaza filled me with unbearable sadness. Unlike the primitive weapons of Hamas, the Israelis had so many sophisticated ways to murder, maim and destroy-unmanned drones, F-16s dropping “smart bombs” that miss, Apache helicopters launching missiles, tanks firing from the ground, ships shelling Gaza from the sea. So many horrific weapons stamped with Made in the USA. While Hamas’ attacks on Israeli villages are deplorable, Israel’s disproportionate response is unconscionable, with 1,330 Palestinians dead vs. 13 Israelis.
If the invasion was designed to destroy Hamas, it failed miserably. Not only is Hamas still in control, but it retains much popular support. If the invasion was designed as a form of collective punishment, it succeeded, leaving behind a trail of grieving mothers, angry fathers and traumatized children.
To get a sense of the devastation, check out a slide show circulating on the internet called Gaza: Massacre of Children. It should be required viewing for all who supported this invasion of Gaza. Babies charred like shish-kebabs. Limbs chopped off. Features melted from white phosphorus. Faces crying out in pain, gripped by fear, overcome by grief.
I mean, you KNOW the troll gets off to dead babies…
It probably saved the photo to disk and then is first going to unleash the Megaphone on the other website, then It will come back and tell us It has “proof” from IDF sources of course, that the photo isn’t real.
Then later on pull up the saved picture, tell It’s parental units that It’s going to bed, close it’s Basement Door and turn off the light, break out It’s jar of Vaseline.
That in itself sounds like a sick joke, a shot-in-the-dark personal insult against It, but Torturers and Killers, and their defenders, well, they ARE like that.
Something about being aroused by the pain or death of others, to the point that they actually CAN’T become aroused without at least an Image of somebody or some other living thing in a helpless and as a bonus Painful situation.
Of course you know that, The Troll probably does as well, despite Its denials,
but it had to be said.
Thank you.
You went where I didn’t want to go, but knew somebody would eventually have to do it.
The truth It denies is exactly that ugly.
There’s worse, far worse.
Dead Palestinian children and dead Israeli children are both terrible things. Hopefully, the Hamas will establish peace with Israel.
Comment from jonah
Time: February 19, 2009, 10:50 pm
I mean, you KNOW the troll gets off to dead babies…
Such a sick and perverted comment speaks volumes about who you are.
No, it speaks volumes about people who attempt to justify killing.
And torture, as I remember in some of your posts under yet another name you reviled me for saying that Cheney would work himself into well deserved heart failure watching the Torture Videos.
You expressed no remorse over Israeli “defense” Force killing Palestinian kids or adults before.
Just wanted to justify it as though it were a “casual accident of war”.
Look hard at the picture… THAT is the face of war.
You called us “haters” for opposing such slaughter.
Be thankful you’ve never had to see it up close, smell the rot and the piss and the shit, see the dogs and birds and flies feasting on Humans, humans killed by other Humans who sold their soul to the Demon Hatred.
“We must march nobly off to defend our National Honor”
This site you decided to troll has always been about opposing war, not condoning it or, worse, actively promoting it.
You have been doing both ever since your first invocation on the site.
You used a different name, thought it was funny, did you?
Thought it was hilarious when your IP address kept coming back up again and again with different names and different made-up biographies for each.
You pretended to be Jew, Christian, Muslim, male and female.
Playing the charade through and now, when you see the face of an actual Dead Infant, now what?
Will you continue to troll us, try to convince Peace Workers to become Violent Savage hate-filled killers like the person who blew this kids head off the top of his neck?
Take a LONG look at the head of a child killed in an action YOU condoned and YOU Promote.
It’s not just senseless, it’s Cold Blooded MURDER.
It’s fairly obvious that you’re an American.
I know some of your Right Wing leaders don’t deign to honor my own American citizenship or patriotism because I refuse to go along with their agenda.
YOUR Agenda.
It didn’t just happen to this particular kid.
The same umbrella-organization of Hate Groups do the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, the Philippines. and your Demented Prophetess Sarah Palin was openly pushing for the same thing in America.
What is, exactly, that ever-so-cute phrase you guys use to justify your excesses? “call me when we behead somebody”?
Sir or Madame, your Wake Up call is ready.
Your Reality Check was returned for insufficient funds, so now we have to write you a new one.
You could, you know, get the Hell over your wounded Hubris and your hurt feelings and start working for peace.
Stop being such an arrogant snot-nosed brat and Grow Up.
Wow Tony, that was a greaet comment you posted re Medea Benjamin. Wish there were more people like her willing to set aside their religion and brainwashing in order to see the innocent victims and moreover, the sheer and utter audacity of their own logic. It boggles the mind actually. No logic, just barbaric
I don’t recall Medea going to Israel to see the death and destruction left behind by the Palestinian suicide bomber reign of terror of intifada 1 and 2, but, maybe she had scheduling conflicts.
Cheers Melissa, with regard to your “links” I can truly understand the pain you must feel for one of your own.
But you should multiply that pain and outrage you feel for one by 400, because that is what the Palestinian people feel about the 400 children Israel just murdered in cold blood.
Andyou should multiply that number again, because that is the pain the children who no longer have parents feel
and then you should multiply that number once again, because that will represent the volunteers who will join Hamas to fight you now.
So, can you understand that, or do you only grasp what your hasbara handlers tell you.
Because here are the numbers since the year 2000 and these DO NOT include the recent massacre of children which is over 400.
since September 29, 2000
123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians
1,487 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis
So let’s just adjust those numbers to include your rogue states recent genocide in December and January, shall we?
123 Israel children killed
1,887 Palestinian children killed
Israel should be shamed, the simple fact that it is not, speaks volumes to the rest of the world
You have lost the hearts and minds of normal people around the world.
We dont belive your hasrare any more, the images we saw, day after day ahve been etched into our minds forever, you can’t erase it, or censor it, or change it. And when you try to justify your actions by pointing to an Israeli victim it pales in comparison to the sheer huge numbers that your state has murdered.
So, Deal with it!
OH poor dear Melissa,
you said:
Comment from Melissa Cook (IP: 71.187.138.56)
Time: February 20, 2009, 1:55 pm
“I don’t recall Medea going to Israel to see the death and destruction left behind by the Palestinian suicide bomber reign of terror of intifada 1 and 2, but, maybe she had scheduling conflicts.”
Doestn it just piss you off that there were already pesky reporters in Gaza, you know, form countries in Europe, and international Aid workers, and people with mobile phones with cameras, and people who work for the UN and UNWRA and many international doctors and nurses and aid agencies?
Too bad Israel didn’t confiscate their phones and cameras before they committed their war crimes
I know how you and your lot like to control the media and public opinion, too bad you failed miserably
I feel pain for every innocent person caught in the Palestinian Israeli crossfire. Everyone bleeds the same blood and since Arabs and Israelis are both Semites, the situation is made even more tragic. I suppose the only difference between Hamas and the IDF is the IDF has better aim, but, that is not to diminish Hamas because the Kassams they fire at civilians in Israel miss their intended targets. Should Israel wait until Hamas actually hits an Israeli school bus, as they almost did, before they relaliate? And, should Israel show continued “restraint” until Hamas receives long-range rockets that can reach Tel Aviv? I would have preferred that Israel show some proportional miitary action in Gaza, to use a favorite term, but, I’m sitting comfortably in my living room without having rockets fired into my window.
Ban, if you want to earn any credibility, you need to tone down the empty rhetoric and propaganda, such as characterizing Israelis as murders, blah blah blah and maintain some semblance of civility of discourse. Throwing temper tantrums and insults make make you feel better, but, it doesn’t advance the discussion.
Tony I just checked out that link to the page about the children you posted above, but here is a video of them with names as well.
“I know how you and your lot like to control the media and public opinion, too bad you failed miserably”
Considering Israel is the only nation in the ME with a free press, your statement is laughable. I guess your not up-to-speed on dissident writers in Egypt and Iran who have been jailed. Read up and be informed.
Melissa, you have some cheek telling me this:
Ban, if you want to earn any credibility, you need to tone down the empty rhetoric and propaganda,
I mean serously, I dont need to “earn” your credibility, because my country did not murder close to 2000 children, AND moreover, if it did I’d certainly not be defending those actions. So Melissa, I would say it is you who has the “credibility” problem, but nice try!
Your arguments are demagogic and one-sided. You may as well just talk to yourself because your mind is already made up and you can’t be confused by the facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? Good video, Ban. I wouldn’t put it past these Israeli ‘cooks’ to use some of these dead children’s names in their propaganda spam wars as they post on anti Zionist blogs like ours are.
I’m hardpressed to recall a less intellectually rigorous duo of debaters. I have had more informed discussions about the nuances of the Middle East with 13 year olds.
Hi tony, Im just sitting here shaking my head at what “melissa” jsut said:
“You may as well just talk to yourself because your mind is already made up and you can’t be confused by the facts.
”
What is it with these people, it’s like they are a tribe of stepford wives for Israel. I mean, they all need a pay raise, because attempting to go out and jsutify what jsut took place in Gaza, when the world has actualy SEEN it, is insane. it’s like tehy are tellnig people “You did not see what you just saw”
as if……….And then tlel the rest of us that in fact it is “us” who dont know the facts ROFLMAO, that takes real guts, or maybe just stupidity LOL
Yeah, i vote for stupidity LOL
Well then Melissa, if there are any 13 years olds left in the middle east that Israel did not kill, I suggest you go and talk to them
OH I forgot Melissa, you can’t talk to anyone in the middle east, because according to your IP address you are in New Jersey LOL
nice try though. But I, on the other hand, actually do know people working over there in various charities, some are even Nuns, imagine that!! and they are good honest people who care about children, not liars as you’d try to make them out to be, but that’s what you do isn’t it. lie
Tony and Ban, enjoy playing with each other. It’s pretty clear nobody else wants to deal with your intellectual vacuousness.
Awe, “melissa” does not want to play anymore, she/he is tired of trying to make people believe the IDF’s lies, she has failed
bye bye Melissa
Tony I did not know you guys got Dr Who over there in the states LOL, do you know David Tennent is leaving the show? Im gutted, he was the best one so far I thought:)
we get 4 episodes this year with him then the new guy starts, ugh:(
“Everyone bleeds the same blood and since Arabs and Israelis are both Semites, the situation is made even more tragic.”
The tragedy is more ironic certainly. I don’t agree that human suffering is more tragic because it’s Semite.
Ah, but Eric, It’s using that infamous Left Wing Invention “Moral Relativism”
By that standard, such as it is, theres no shame in advocating mass murder, which is what war is, but criticizing Mass Murder makes us “Hate Criminals” and “Hypocrites”.
Incidentally, don’t publish the volume of hits the “insignificant website” has been getting to discount It’s “talking to ourselves” claim.
That would set up people who tune in to the drama for having their own emails, weblogs and fora spammed.
“400 children Israel just murdered in cold blood”
Ban, what is your source for the casualty figure of 400 Palestinian “children” Also, how do you define children by age group?
For those who have just joined us here to read material at Not My Tribe, we are at a definite disadvantage with ‘Melissa Cook’, who has dropped all her other IP fictional names as she writes on behalf of the Israeli military propaganda team.
‘She’ is actually a team of people who literally get paid by the Jewish State to spam antiZionist blogs almost 24 hours a day with their own Jewish State tripe . We on the other hand, are maintaining a private blog and are totally unpaid. One can easily see who will be able to throw the most comments online here unless we were merely to close down all commentaries, which we will not do unless absolutely necessary.
You are accountable for allegations you make. What is the source for the 400 children casualty count and how are children defined as children by age?
‘You are accountable for allegations you make.’
What a dumbshit propaganda crap machine you are, Jewish State. You threatening me, Military Machine?
“What a dumbshit?”
Your brilliant debating skills just leave me in the dust. Why does this blog continue to employ such a loser, do you have compromising pictures of the owner?
I can define “Children” using the term “children of God” if you want.
Not that it would make a difference.
You’re determined to promote more killing, and therefore more buying of munitions from the companies who sponsor the Megaphone, and sponsor other aspects of the War.
The war against Children and other Civilians.
Your IDF is required to Prove that the people they killed are not Civilians.
A statement YOU make that all the grownups, by your definition, are also by your definition Convicted Terrorists…
And you know this how, Exactly?
Because the IDF told you.
That would be a pretty neat deal for the IDF, anybody they Kill is a Terrorist but no proof is necessary.
Kill Children? Hey, according to IDF there was a sniper hiding behind the kids…
The sniper never gets found, oh, well…
Too bad and so sad, but IDF said there was one, and IDF would never lie.
What are YOU Gonna do, Personally, to make ME pay for saying your IDF are Babykillers?
Since we’re “Accountable”.
You’re just a coward Promoter of Murder.
I don’t know how much IDF or their Parent Corporations are paying you for your soul.
That’s your own private business.
IDF is getting a big United States Taxpayer Contribution to commit those murders.
Medea Benjamin is a Jew, but you question her Jewish Soul because she does what, speak against the so called Jewish State?
Israel the Biblical includes ALL of Israel, even Judah.
Even Samaria (Palestinians)
Israel the State is not Israel the Biblical.
The leaders do not speak for even All of the citizens of Israel.
Not even all of the Jewish citizens of Israel the state.
They Damn Surely do not speak for all Jews worldwide.
They do, however, speak for their Corporate Masters and do it loudly.
Loudly as in “gunshot loud” or “Bomb Loud” or “Screams of Dying Children” Loud.
In Judaism, one who sells out to Satan as a gentile is not nearly as bad as one who sells out to Satan as a Jew.
Because Judah contains an essence of the name of God.
So does Isra-El.
You’re not only selling your individual soul to your Satanic Murderous Overlords, you’re selling it in the name of Jew, and Judah, and Israel and Jehovah.
Christianity says the same thing.
Jonah, speaking for Jonah, says the same thing.
Like my name-sake I’ll call for your repentance and warn of the destruction.
Unlike him (he was a right hateful man)
I hope and pray that you DO repent.
Your British Officer, minion of a Hereditary Dictator (Queen Bess 2) said that the IDF had taken every step possible to minimize civilian casualties.
This from a man who makes his living Killing, and, in Afghanistan, just like Iraq, and Just Like Palestine, most of the Murdered are civilians.
The Military people who Murdered them will always try to justify their Murders by saying they must have been guilty.
And they’ll come off with the Bullshit argument that they tried to minimize the civilian deaths
The simplest way to minimize civilian casualties is to avoid firing guns and bombs in their direction.
You point the guns their direction, you didn’t do Everything Possible to avoid killing them.
Saying that you did everything possible to avoid killing them is therefore a LIE.
Your Corporate WhoreMasters are quite adept at lying and then getting their supporters to join them in the LIES.
“Employ”???
Ah, but you do disclose your true nature there…
Tony said it more succinctly, I said it with many words, but you said it yourself.
You are a Paid Spammer.
a Professional Troll.
War against children? You mean like when Hamas narrowly missed a schoolbus carrying Israeli children with a Kassam rocket? Or, the time Hamas nearly hit a kindergarten with a Katyusha? You seem mentally unable to distinguish between Hamas *offensively* firing rockets at innocent Israeli children and Arab children caught up in the crossfire of a *defensive* war provoked by Hamas. You also cannot or will not get your brain around the concept of Hamas using schools, hospitals, homes and mosques as military bases from which they shoot at Israelis as well as using children as human shields, all of which is designed by Hamas to maximize civilian casualties. You’re not too bright.
‘You are accountable for allegations you make.’
This piece of Israeli military trash paid to spam our web site is threatening what here? He is going to come to Colorado Springs and what?
These scum bags do get people in the US into trouble all the time and so I do not take this terrorist threat lightly. More terrorist threats from Melissa and she should go offline quick. Do you hear that Jewish State Machine Guy Spammer? Do not threaten us again. We have not threatened you in any way and have allowed your trash to continually spill onto our site despite its total vulgarity. Do not threaten people again here.
Google 437 + Gaza + UN and you’ll find your sources.
This Jewish State Spam Machine threat might actually be to use a Denial of Service Attack once again, Eric.
Description
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A “denial-of-service” attack is characterized by an explicit attempt by attackers to prevent legitimate users of a service from using that service. Examples include attempts to “flood” a network, thereby preventing legitimate network traffic
attempts to disrupt connections between two machines, thereby preventing access to a service attempts to prevent a particular individual from accessing a service attempts to disrupt service to a specific system or person
Not all service outages, even those that result from malicious activity, are necessarily denial-of-service attacks. Other types of attack may include a denial of service as a component, but the denial of service may be part of a larger attack.
Illegitimate use of resources may also result in denial of service. For example, an intruder may use your anonymous ftp area as a place to store illegal copies of commercial software, consuming disk space and generating network traffic
Impact
Denial-of-service attacks can essentially disable your computer or your network. Depending on the nature of your enterprise, this can effectively disable your organization.
Some denial-of-service attacks can be executed with limited resources against a large, sophisticated site. This type of attack is sometimes called an “asymmetric attack.” For example, an attacker with an old PC and a slow modem may be able to disable much faster and more sophisticated machines or networks.
437 + Gaza + UN generates extremist anti-Semitic websites, such as the website that says, “Fuck Israel” on its homepage. Pls. provide a reliable link that verifies 400 children casualties, for the record.
We are not under your command, Cook.
“This Jewish State Spam Machine ”
You are welcome to try to refute whatever I say with credible information, however, you seemingly are unable to do so. You merely rant about absurd conspiracies that exist only in your fevered imagination.
By a perusal of the major news sources it looks like the consensus is: the Israeli offensive killed 1,330 people, at least half of them civilians including 437 children. Another 5,450 were wounded, including 1,890 children.
Why, what have you got?
The “consensus” is based on Palestinian sources, which are not necessarily reliable, credible sources. The IDF have their own figures that I’m sure you’d dispute.
Boo-hoo-hoo. Melissa, we’ll let the other readers make the decisions about what is real and what is make believe, shall we? However, you work at least 16 hours a day spamming this site with Israeli military propaganda and people will notice quite often that simple fact of the super energy that comes from having paid staff spam private people’s computers. Comparatively, we at NMT can barely keep up with it though since we do not get paid like your people do. Writing here is a lot like erasing commercial spam off an AOL email box. …lol… Yes…. That’s exactly what it’s like.
Cook, where did all your other fictional identities go off too? A conference of some sort? Or is it that they are all busy shipping out to re-enter Gaza under the command of your new Supreme Leader?
And what were the IDF figures then?
Do they resemble the official US estimates for casualties in Iraq?
The IDF reports that 400 Palestinian casualties were civilians. The UN is in the process of doing their own report.
Can you source the photo?
Medea Benjamin speaks below of her trip to Gaza…
See all of her commentary at Alternet: Once you see what truly happened in Gaza, it will change you forever.
Ah, Tony, you shouldn’t have.
I mean, you KNOW the troll gets off to dead babies…
It probably saved the photo to disk and then is first going to unleash the Megaphone on the other website, then It will come back and tell us It has “proof” from IDF sources of course, that the photo isn’t real.
Then later on pull up the saved picture, tell It’s parental units that It’s going to bed, close it’s Basement Door and turn off the light, break out It’s jar of Vaseline.
That in itself sounds like a sick joke, a shot-in-the-dark personal insult against It, but Torturers and Killers, and their defenders, well, they ARE like that.
Something about being aroused by the pain or death of others, to the point that they actually CAN’T become aroused without at least an Image of somebody or some other living thing in a helpless and as a bonus Painful situation.
Of course you know that, The Troll probably does as well, despite Its denials,
but it had to be said.
Thank you.
You went where I didn’t want to go, but knew somebody would eventually have to do it.
The truth It denies is exactly that ugly.
There’s worse, far worse.
Dead Palestinian children and dead Israeli children are both terrible things. Hopefully, the Hamas will establish peace with Israel.
Comment from jonah
Time: February 19, 2009, 10:50 pm
I mean, you KNOW the troll gets off to dead babies…
Such a sick and perverted comment speaks volumes about who you are.
No, it speaks volumes about people who attempt to justify killing.
And torture, as I remember in some of your posts under yet another name you reviled me for saying that Cheney would work himself into well deserved heart failure watching the Torture Videos.
You expressed no remorse over Israeli “defense” Force killing Palestinian kids or adults before.
Just wanted to justify it as though it were a “casual accident of war”.
Look hard at the picture… THAT is the face of war.
You called us “haters” for opposing such slaughter.
Be thankful you’ve never had to see it up close, smell the rot and the piss and the shit, see the dogs and birds and flies feasting on Humans, humans killed by other Humans who sold their soul to the Demon Hatred.
“We must march nobly off to defend our National Honor”
This site you decided to troll has always been about opposing war, not condoning it or, worse, actively promoting it.
You have been doing both ever since your first invocation on the site.
You used a different name, thought it was funny, did you?
Thought it was hilarious when your IP address kept coming back up again and again with different names and different made-up biographies for each.
You pretended to be Jew, Christian, Muslim, male and female.
Playing the charade through and now, when you see the face of an actual Dead Infant, now what?
Will you continue to troll us, try to convince Peace Workers to become Violent Savage hate-filled killers like the person who blew this kids head off the top of his neck?
Take a LONG look at the head of a child killed in an action YOU condoned and YOU Promote.
It’s not just senseless, it’s Cold Blooded MURDER.
It’s fairly obvious that you’re an American.
I know some of your Right Wing leaders don’t deign to honor my own American citizenship or patriotism because I refuse to go along with their agenda.
YOUR Agenda.
It didn’t just happen to this particular kid.
The same umbrella-organization of Hate Groups do the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, the Philippines. and your Demented Prophetess Sarah Palin was openly pushing for the same thing in America.
What is, exactly, that ever-so-cute phrase you guys use to justify your excesses? “call me when we behead somebody”?
Sir or Madame, your Wake Up call is ready.
Your Reality Check was returned for insufficient funds, so now we have to write you a new one.
You could, you know, get the Hell over your wounded Hubris and your hurt feelings and start working for peace.
Stop being such an arrogant snot-nosed brat and Grow Up.
At least you have that chance.
The kid in the picture didn’t.
You are mentally ill.
Here are the pictures of Israeli social worker Tali Hatuel and her daughters, all of whom were ambushed by Palestinian “freedom fighters” and shot dead at point-blank range. Ms. Hatue was also pregnant at the time.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Memorial/2004/Tali+Hatuel.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tali_Hatuel
Wow Tony, that was a greaet comment you posted re Medea Benjamin. Wish there were more people like her willing to set aside their religion and brainwashing in order to see the innocent victims and moreover, the sheer and utter audacity of their own logic. It boggles the mind actually. No logic, just barbaric
I don’t recall Medea going to Israel to see the death and destruction left behind by the Palestinian suicide bomber reign of terror of intifada 1 and 2, but, maybe she had scheduling conflicts.
Cheers Melissa, with regard to your “links” I can truly understand the pain you must feel for one of your own.
But you should multiply that pain and outrage you feel for one by 400, because that is what the Palestinian people feel about the 400 children Israel just murdered in cold blood.
Andyou should multiply that number again, because that is the pain the children who no longer have parents feel
and then you should multiply that number once again, because that will represent the volunteers who will join Hamas to fight you now.
So, can you understand that, or do you only grasp what your hasbara handlers tell you.
Because here are the numbers since the year 2000 and these DO NOT include the recent massacre of children which is over 400.
since September 29, 2000
123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians
1,487 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis
So let’s just adjust those numbers to include your rogue states recent genocide in December and January, shall we?
123 Israel children killed
1,887 Palestinian children killed
Israel should be shamed, the simple fact that it is not, speaks volumes to the rest of the world
You have lost the hearts and minds of normal people around the world.
We dont belive your hasrare any more, the images we saw, day after day ahve been etched into our minds forever, you can’t erase it, or censor it, or change it. And when you try to justify your actions by pointing to an Israeli victim it pales in comparison to the sheer huge numbers that your state has murdered.
So, Deal with it!
OH poor dear Melissa,
you said:
Comment from Melissa Cook (IP: 71.187.138.56)
Time: February 20, 2009, 1:55 pm
“I don’t recall Medea going to Israel to see the death and destruction left behind by the Palestinian suicide bomber reign of terror of intifada 1 and 2, but, maybe she had scheduling conflicts.”
Doestn it just piss you off that there were already pesky reporters in Gaza, you know, form countries in Europe, and international Aid workers, and people with mobile phones with cameras, and people who work for the UN and UNWRA and many international doctors and nurses and aid agencies?
Too bad Israel didn’t confiscate their phones and cameras before they committed their war crimes
I know how you and your lot like to control the media and public opinion, too bad you failed miserably
I feel pain for every innocent person caught in the Palestinian Israeli crossfire. Everyone bleeds the same blood and since Arabs and Israelis are both Semites, the situation is made even more tragic. I suppose the only difference between Hamas and the IDF is the IDF has better aim, but, that is not to diminish Hamas because the Kassams they fire at civilians in Israel miss their intended targets. Should Israel wait until Hamas actually hits an Israeli school bus, as they almost did, before they relaliate? And, should Israel show continued “restraint” until Hamas receives long-range rockets that can reach Tel Aviv? I would have preferred that Israel show some proportional miitary action in Gaza, to use a favorite term, but, I’m sitting comfortably in my living room without having rockets fired into my window.
Ban, if you want to earn any credibility, you need to tone down the empty rhetoric and propaganda, such as characterizing Israelis as murders, blah blah blah and maintain some semblance of civility of discourse. Throwing temper tantrums and insults make make you feel better, but, it doesn’t advance the discussion.
Tony I just checked out that link to the page about the children you posted above, but here is a video of them with names as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUfPxRn4IIc&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit2&feature=player_embedded
“I know how you and your lot like to control the media and public opinion, too bad you failed miserably”
Considering Israel is the only nation in the ME with a free press, your statement is laughable. I guess your not up-to-speed on dissident writers in Egypt and Iran who have been jailed. Read up and be informed.
Melissa, you have some cheek telling me this:
Ban, if you want to earn any credibility, you need to tone down the empty rhetoric and propaganda,
I mean serously, I dont need to “earn” your credibility, because my country did not murder close to 2000 children, AND moreover, if it did I’d certainly not be defending those actions. So Melissa, I would say it is you who has the “credibility” problem, but nice try!
Your arguments are demagogic and one-sided. You may as well just talk to yourself because your mind is already made up and you can’t be confused by the facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? Good video, Ban. I wouldn’t put it past these Israeli ‘cooks’ to use some of these dead children’s names in their propaganda spam wars as they post on anti Zionist blogs like ours are.
I’m hardpressed to recall a less intellectually rigorous duo of debaters. I have had more informed discussions about the nuances of the Middle East with 13 year olds.
Hi tony, Im just sitting here shaking my head at what “melissa” jsut said:
“You may as well just talk to yourself because your mind is already made up and you can’t be confused by the facts.
”
What is it with these people, it’s like they are a tribe of stepford wives for Israel. I mean, they all need a pay raise, because attempting to go out and jsutify what jsut took place in Gaza, when the world has actualy SEEN it, is insane. it’s like tehy are tellnig people “You did not see what you just saw”
as if……….And then tlel the rest of us that in fact it is “us” who dont know the facts ROFLMAO, that takes real guts, or maybe just stupidity LOL
Yeah, i vote for stupidity LOL
Well then Melissa, if there are any 13 years olds left in the middle east that Israel did not kill, I suggest you go and talk to them
OH I forgot Melissa, you can’t talk to anyone in the middle east, because according to your IP address you are in New Jersey LOL
nice try though. But I, on the other hand, actually do know people working over there in various charities, some are even Nuns, imagine that!! and they are good honest people who care about children, not liars as you’d try to make them out to be, but that’s what you do isn’t it. lie
The ‘cook’ is crying….
Ban, this trash is exactly like an attack by The Daleks. Davros has sent them to us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd01y0STLzw
Their favorite word? EXTERMINATE
Tony and Ban, enjoy playing with each other. It’s pretty clear nobody else wants to deal with your intellectual vacuousness.
Awe, “melissa” does not want to play anymore, she/he is tired of trying to make people believe the IDF’s lies, she has failed
bye bye Melissa
Tony I did not know you guys got Dr Who over there in the states LOL, do you know David Tennent is leaving the show? Im gutted, he was the best one so far I thought:)
we get 4 episodes this year with him then the new guy starts, ugh:(
The tragedy is more ironic certainly. I don’t agree that human suffering is more tragic because it’s Semite.
Ah, but Eric, It’s using that infamous Left Wing Invention “Moral Relativism”
By that standard, such as it is, theres no shame in advocating mass murder, which is what war is, but criticizing Mass Murder makes us “Hate Criminals” and “Hypocrites”.
Incidentally, don’t publish the volume of hits the “insignificant website” has been getting to discount It’s “talking to ourselves” claim.
That would set up people who tune in to the drama for having their own emails, weblogs and fora spammed.
“400 children Israel just murdered in cold blood”
Ban, what is your source for the casualty figure of 400 Palestinian “children” Also, how do you define children by age group?
For those who have just joined us here to read material at Not My Tribe, we are at a definite disadvantage with ‘Melissa Cook’, who has dropped all her other IP fictional names as she writes on behalf of the Israeli military propaganda team.
‘She’ is actually a team of people who literally get paid by the Jewish State to spam antiZionist blogs almost 24 hours a day with their own Jewish State tripe . We on the other hand, are maintaining a private blog and are totally unpaid. One can easily see who will be able to throw the most comments online here unless we were merely to close down all commentaries, which we will not do unless absolutely necessary.
You are accountable for allegations you make. What is the source for the 400 children casualty count and how are children defined as children by age?
‘You are accountable for allegations you make.’
What a dumbshit propaganda crap machine you are, Jewish State. You threatening me, Military Machine?
“What a dumbshit?”
Your brilliant debating skills just leave me in the dust. Why does this blog continue to employ such a loser, do you have compromising pictures of the owner?
I can define “Children” using the term “children of God” if you want.
Not that it would make a difference.
You’re determined to promote more killing, and therefore more buying of munitions from the companies who sponsor the Megaphone, and sponsor other aspects of the War.
The war against Children and other Civilians.
Your IDF is required to Prove that the people they killed are not Civilians.
A statement YOU make that all the grownups, by your definition, are also by your definition Convicted Terrorists…
And you know this how, Exactly?
Because the IDF told you.
That would be a pretty neat deal for the IDF, anybody they Kill is a Terrorist but no proof is necessary.
Kill Children? Hey, according to IDF there was a sniper hiding behind the kids…
The sniper never gets found, oh, well…
Too bad and so sad, but IDF said there was one, and IDF would never lie.
What are YOU Gonna do, Personally, to make ME pay for saying your IDF are Babykillers?
Since we’re “Accountable”.
You’re just a coward Promoter of Murder.
I don’t know how much IDF or their Parent Corporations are paying you for your soul.
That’s your own private business.
IDF is getting a big United States Taxpayer Contribution to commit those murders.
Medea Benjamin is a Jew, but you question her Jewish Soul because she does what, speak against the so called Jewish State?
Israel the Biblical includes ALL of Israel, even Judah.
Even Samaria (Palestinians)
Israel the State is not Israel the Biblical.
The leaders do not speak for even All of the citizens of Israel.
Not even all of the Jewish citizens of Israel the state.
They Damn Surely do not speak for all Jews worldwide.
They do, however, speak for their Corporate Masters and do it loudly.
Loudly as in “gunshot loud” or “Bomb Loud” or “Screams of Dying Children” Loud.
In Judaism, one who sells out to Satan as a gentile is not nearly as bad as one who sells out to Satan as a Jew.
Because Judah contains an essence of the name of God.
So does Isra-El.
You’re not only selling your individual soul to your Satanic Murderous Overlords, you’re selling it in the name of Jew, and Judah, and Israel and Jehovah.
Christianity says the same thing.
Jonah, speaking for Jonah, says the same thing.
Like my name-sake I’ll call for your repentance and warn of the destruction.
Unlike him (he was a right hateful man)
I hope and pray that you DO repent.
Your British Officer, minion of a Hereditary Dictator (Queen Bess 2) said that the IDF had taken every step possible to minimize civilian casualties.
This from a man who makes his living Killing, and, in Afghanistan, just like Iraq, and Just Like Palestine, most of the Murdered are civilians.
The Military people who Murdered them will always try to justify their Murders by saying they must have been guilty.
And they’ll come off with the Bullshit argument that they tried to minimize the civilian deaths
The simplest way to minimize civilian casualties is to avoid firing guns and bombs in their direction.
You point the guns their direction, you didn’t do Everything Possible to avoid killing them.
Saying that you did everything possible to avoid killing them is therefore a LIE.
Your Corporate WhoreMasters are quite adept at lying and then getting their supporters to join them in the LIES.
“Employ”???
Ah, but you do disclose your true nature there…
Tony said it more succinctly, I said it with many words, but you said it yourself.
You are a Paid Spammer.
a Professional Troll.
War against children? You mean like when Hamas narrowly missed a schoolbus carrying Israeli children with a Kassam rocket? Or, the time Hamas nearly hit a kindergarten with a Katyusha? You seem mentally unable to distinguish between Hamas *offensively* firing rockets at innocent Israeli children and Arab children caught up in the crossfire of a *defensive* war provoked by Hamas. You also cannot or will not get your brain around the concept of Hamas using schools, hospitals, homes and mosques as military bases from which they shoot at Israelis as well as using children as human shields, all of which is designed by Hamas to maximize civilian casualties. You’re not too bright.
‘You are accountable for allegations you make.’
This piece of Israeli military trash paid to spam our web site is threatening what here? He is going to come to Colorado Springs and what?
These scum bags do get people in the US into trouble all the time and so I do not take this terrorist threat lightly. More terrorist threats from Melissa and she should go offline quick. Do you hear that Jewish State Machine Guy Spammer? Do not threaten us again. We have not threatened you in any way and have allowed your trash to continually spill onto our site despite its total vulgarity. Do not threaten people again here.
Google 437 + Gaza + UN and you’ll find your sources.
This Jewish State Spam Machine threat might actually be to use a Denial of Service Attack once again, Eric.
Description
This document provides a general overview of attacks in which the primary goal of the attack is to deny the victim(s) access to a particular resource. Included is information that may help you respond to such an attack.
A “denial-of-service” attack is characterized by an explicit attempt by attackers to prevent legitimate users of a service from using that service. Examples include attempts to “flood” a network, thereby preventing legitimate network traffic
attempts to disrupt connections between two machines, thereby preventing access to a service attempts to prevent a particular individual from accessing a service attempts to disrupt service to a specific system or person
Not all service outages, even those that result from malicious activity, are necessarily denial-of-service attacks. Other types of attack may include a denial of service as a component, but the denial of service may be part of a larger attack.
Illegitimate use of resources may also result in denial of service. For example, an intruder may use your anonymous ftp area as a place to store illegal copies of commercial software, consuming disk space and generating network traffic
Impact
Denial-of-service attacks can essentially disable your computer or your network. Depending on the nature of your enterprise, this can effectively disable your organization.
Some denial-of-service attacks can be executed with limited resources against a large, sophisticated site. This type of attack is sometimes called an “asymmetric attack.” For example, an attacker with an old PC and a slow modem may be able to disable much faster and more sophisticated machines or networks.
See http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/denial_of_service.html for more information.
437 + Gaza + UN generates extremist anti-Semitic websites, such as the website that says, “Fuck Israel” on its homepage. Pls. provide a reliable link that verifies 400 children casualties, for the record.
We are not under your command, Cook.
“This Jewish State Spam Machine ”
You are welcome to try to refute whatever I say with credible information, however, you seemingly are unable to do so. You merely rant about absurd conspiracies that exist only in your fevered imagination.
By a perusal of the major news sources it looks like the consensus is: the Israeli offensive killed 1,330 people, at least half of them civilians including 437 children. Another 5,450 were wounded, including 1,890 children.
Why, what have you got?
The “consensus” is based on Palestinian sources, which are not necessarily reliable, credible sources. The IDF have their own figures that I’m sure you’d dispute.
Boo-hoo-hoo. Melissa, we’ll let the other readers make the decisions about what is real and what is make believe, shall we? However, you work at least 16 hours a day spamming this site with Israeli military propaganda and people will notice quite often that simple fact of the super energy that comes from having paid staff spam private people’s computers. Comparatively, we at NMT can barely keep up with it though since we do not get paid like your people do. Writing here is a lot like erasing commercial spam off an AOL email box. …lol… Yes…. That’s exactly what it’s like.
Cook, where did all your other fictional identities go off too? A conference of some sort? Or is it that they are all busy shipping out to re-enter Gaza under the command of your new Supreme Leader?
And what were the IDF figures then?
Do they resemble the official US estimates for casualties in Iraq?
The IDF reports that 400 Palestinian casualties were civilians. The UN is in the process of doing their own report.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304800373&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Time magazine an the Palestinian casualty figures in Gaza: “Were We Duped”
http://mideast.blogs.time.com/2009/02/18/gaza-body-count-were-we-duped/