Photos, videos and links from the Friday rally.
More pictures here.
The weirdo was Janis Heuberger who’s made it a personal crusade to cleanse Colorado Springs of its homeless. Though she interrupted the rally pretending she was an active advocate for the homeless, in reality she’s led the attack against them, online (writing at GT as “funinsnow” )and in city council. Janis, aka disbarred realtor Janice Heuberger-Hilt, filed a complaint with the EPA in her personal effort to clear out the camps.
Where was I? Enjoying the life of disability and poverty. Not trying to rob the poorest of their few possessions.
Ed and I and quite a few of Eric’s friends have felt the sting of homelessness and the unecessary bigotry against us that comes with it. When we point out that we were once homeless ourselves we get this line of crap that probably we deserved it because we’re “crazy” or drug addicts or criminals.
“If you have done nothing wrong, why should you fear the KGB, Comrade?”
Guilt by association, only it’s the association with a pattern that exists largely in the imaginations of the White Collar Elitists.
If we express any kind of anger at being treated like subhuman scum, Elitists like Ms Heuberger get all condescending and say, “Behold, they became angry, they MUST be emotionally unstable.”
There would be a lot less problem with Elitists if they actually WERE Elite. Actually more intelligent or better educated or more emotionally stable than the people they put down in the guise of “helping”.
As it is, you come off as a bunch of self-righteous arrogant pricks.
It’s maybe just an impression, but that IS the perception and you earned every bit of it.
“Start a Relationship with a homeless person” then bring him or her in to what, a group who are so arrogant that I can’t trust them with MY life, but I’m supposed to befriend people for the sole purpose of bringing them to you as a sacrifice?
Not Half Likely. When I was homeless I would distrust anything like that, and probably be right.
Brother Jonah –
Again I ask the question, since you and Ed were once homeless (or maybe you are still)?
What are do each doing personally to end homelessness in Colorado Springs?
Besides the obvious ranting, & raving – –
Peace & Love
Janis
Who are you going to protest against next?
Who is to blame for homelessness –
– The Meth pushers
– Budweiser, Jack Daniels, Robert Mondavi
Vineyards, etc.
– The families, ex-wifes, ex-husbands, children,
etc. of the homeless.
– The police, judges, law enforcement who put
them in jail for breaking the law – (i.e.
ex-felons)
– The community members (who want to
preserve their city)
– The Federal EPA (who protects our
environment)
on and on and on . . . We are all born into this world with the same opportunity available to all
I can list people who have risen from nothing from no family – no money – no silver spoon – get the picture.
Peace & Love
Janis
Eric – Thanks for updating your bio that you are a former member of Pikes Peak Justice & Peace Commission.
Peace & Love
Janis
The police set out to “teach me a lesson” for talking back to their Coward Uniformed Thugs. They beat me while I was handcuffed and helpless. Then the Fat Piggy Bastard who was doing the most “stick work” said “It’s our word against yours, who’s going to believe YOU?”
Certainly not the so-called “Good People” who voted for and promoted the Ordinance.
Your Pigs are cowards, they’re sadists and you gave them even more power to attack even more people with even less provocation than somebody refusing to Grovel to them.
I’m refusing to grovel to YOU, Janis. What will you do about it?
Have your PIGS attack me, again? That you associate with them and spew the same hate speech that they do, that we’re somehow inferior to you because we’re not Wealthy… that says a lot more about you and your other friends than any words you could speak or write, EVER.
I won’t be at your meeting because you’ll jump on every aphasia-stammer or misphrased sentence that I speak, and treat me as though a speech problem is Insanity. You and your PIG buddies. If I object you’ll start in with the bullshit that talking back to your ever-so-superior Rich Bitch ass is Madness instead of Anger.
I’m quite well aware of the difference between the concepts of “mad” and “angry” and I never use the terms interchangeably.
I leave that to your sort. I know the English language better than anybody I’ve ever met including Medical Doctors and college professors. Yet my speech, in person, sounds confused and slow.
Ed I’ve met, Eric I know well, they don’t make the presumption that I’m retarded or ignorant or crazy because of my speech patterns. I speak three languages the same way. I don’t know how many languages you speak, Janis, but I know you speak the language of Smug Condescending very fluently.
You do an enormous disservice to yourself by your auto-flattery that such is not the case.
So thank you for inviting me to your abuse session, but I’m not going for it.
I write far better than I speak, so that being my strength, that will be where I make MY contribution. Rather than giving you a chance to laugh and mock my speech, and somehow by my being a non-speaker proving that I must be wrong on every count, and by association everybody else who stands against your plans.
I learned to type, I learned computers, so it now doesn’t take me an hour to scrawl an illegible single page document. It’s a gift from God almighty that comes on the heels of the curse of being physically disabled, first by Autism and second by an on-the-job Accident which many of your associates make the assumption was my fault. And they say so often.
I’ll not go into a room full of predatory police types and expect that you or your friends will treat me as even a human being, far less your peer. For me to assume that you would treat me in any way above rabid condescension, that WOULD be insanity.
The suggestions that the Tent City people, many of whom are actually my friends and to the best of my certain knowledge, none of them is my enemy, should organize as perhaps a separate municipality, (The army and Air Force bases do) because the City of Colorado Springs seems bent on denying them even basic citizenship, that holds.
So does my suggestion that the City should provide for a garbage dumpster, or perhaps your group could fund such a nicety.
And not closing the restrooms at the parks. Things that would benefit not just the Homeless Citizens but every other citizen as well.
Further, that they organize a self defense alliance. One that would police the camp far more elegantly and efficiently than anything you could impose on them.
It’s been done before. For one it would keep the people you’ve inflamed to Hatred with your denunciations of the homeless PEOPLE, from rising up and destroying the camps.
They’ve done so many many times with the old system where a lone camper, without a community around him, would be helpless pickings and when he left the camp unattended, the scions of the “Good People” would descend upon his camp.
Instead of proposing making that kind of violence an established civic policy, which is exactly what your ordinance, of which you are so literally God-Damned proud, mandates.
Scrap the ordinance, propose the provision of basic sanitation services, then come to tell me how much you love the homeless people. The Chief of Police said there was no alternative to a brutal Police State crackdown not on homelessness, but on homeless PEOPLE.
He lied, as he usually does. Lyin’ Hell Rivera joined in, so did so called Liberty Party councilman Sean Paige. And you went into it the same way, with no objection to the violence you’re engendering.
Provide the sanitation. That would be an excellent and really low-cost alternative and a great first act of compromise.
Instead you arrogantly demand that the people submit to your so-called “authority” meekly, humbly, with no argument.
Argument, to your arrogant system, is a punishable offense.
Which is where I started this particular post.
Your Pigs taught me a lesson, yes. It wasn’t the lesson they hoped to teach me though.
You come in carrying a contingent of Pigs and then expect to be taken seriously. Not happening, babycakes.
Real Peace and Real Love.
For somebody who’s allegedly being censored and silenced you sure are typing a lot of keystrokes into Erics website.
Apparently even without that misguided and obviously hyped whine, you’re taking what we say seriously enough that you’ve appointed yourself the Apostle to NotMyTribe.
Makes me think we’re making a difference.
Hope you organize a “Thank you” Rally at
Let’s see it would have to start if you want to start the the top with
The Federal Government – since they fund the non-profits (with tax payers $)
The State Government – since they fund the non-profits (with tax payers $)
Local Foundations – Like El Pomar since they fund the non-profits
Community Members – since they donate privately to the non-profits.
Brother Jonah – You might want to turn your ranting and raving into positive solution based ideas to end homelessness.
You can attend a meeting and just listen –
If you feel that you can “type” – How about doing some grant writing for the non-profits.
Quit hiding behind your excuses and be a part of the solution to end homelessness.
Hope you don’t live your life to end being so angry and mad at the world.
Peace & Love
Janis
Brother Jonah –
We have homeless disable Veterans, Disabled subject matter experts that have been homeless after the Viet Nam War, and people in need that participate in the meetings.
Just met at the City Council Meeting – another Viet Nam Vet that is an activist but he uses his knowledge and education to work with the entire community to end homelessness.
These folks are also at all the city council meetings.
Peace & Love
Janis
http://wwwwendolbloggercom.blogspot.com/
Here is a link to his blog –
Peace & Love
Hope you experience the other side of life
Janis
Ed Billings – On the news – The organizers of the Peace Rally was Coloradans for Peace as stated by Eric Verlo.
Ouch –
Peace & Love
Janis
Crazy Lady ranted:
You lost any chance at cooperation from me when you backed the Ordinance that mandates violence against the poor with no other excuse necessary than that they are poor.
Somewhere in there you suggested counselling to help the Deluded Madmen who your friends and comrades say infest the Tent City find non-existent jobs and get non-existent help getting a chance at a non-existent permanent dwelling which has exactly zero probability because it’s not even funded.
The money was pissed away on a war and an insane (even by Capitalist standards) scam to invest in an impossible to collect mortgage market, buying the mortgages as though they were an actual monetary instrument rather than uncollectable IOUs.
And then buying the debt incurred by that scam.
The war goes on, with no chance in Hell of it being funded far less won. The economy on which your rosy estimates of a possibility of “teaching and counselling” the poor not to be poor has about as much chance as my cat flying up and talking to the birds on the telephone lines and invite them to dinner.
But a common sense solution like providing a Dempsy Dumpster and access to already existent latrine facilities is dismissed as impractical and “crazy” ranting and raving.
The cost of one single act of violence either by the Police against a homeless PERSON or by that person defending himself against the assault would far outstrip the costs of providing a Dempsy Dumpster and access to already existent latrine facilities.
That’s very simple and very conservative economic reality.
The shelters are jammed with people who are newly unemployed and who have their kids with them. I know one young family well who just recently, lost their jobs, their apartment, the wife was pregnant with twins, and lived most of the summer in the temporary Day Houses and slept in churches at night. Fortunately they had storage facilities for their possessions. And those of her two daughters not counting the unborn twins (who are now healthy infants and cuter than a basket of puppies)
The temporary jobs which are sometimes available don’t actually pay rent + groceries + clothing + Transportatin + adequate medical care, despite what the Right Wing Losers who run this town (into the ground as often as they possibly can) have to say about it.
That’s a very common situation and it will get progressively worse, yet you somehow assume that counselling and minimum wage jobs will bring the people out of poverty.
And of course you recycle the myth that the only reasons people are homeless is they’re insane, addicted, criminals or D) all of the above.
That just doesn’t buy a lot of credibility for your Pogrom ooops little Freudian slip there, “Program”.
Actually program and Agenda are far too mild as terms to describe it, more like Jihad.
That makes a huge problem for selling your agenda.
Brother Jonah – Who is the crazy lady that you are referring to in the above post?
By the way – I am still waiting for an answer to my direct question to you.
What are you doing personally to end homelessness in Colorado Springs?
Any participation in anything – meetings, etc.
Peace & Love
Janis
There is a link to this site published.
You might want to post with facts instead of rants & raves. You are losing credability for yourself and notmytribe.
Ouch
Peace & Love
Janis
Credibility
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A credible source of information makes for quicker and firmer decisions.
A credible person is expert (experienced, qualified, intelligent, skilled) and trustworthy (honest, fair, unselfish, caring). Charisma can increase credibility. Charismatic people, in addition to credible, are extroverted, composed and sociable.
Credibility is context-dependent, and an expert in one situation may be incompetent in another. It is also a cue that is used in selecting the peripheral route to decision-making.
Credibility-enhancing actions include:
* Highlighting your own experience and qualifications.
* Showing you care about the other person and have their best interests at heart.
* Showing you are similar to them by using their language, body language, dress, etc.
* Being assertive. Quickly and logically refuting counter-arguments.
* Leveraging the credibility of others, e.g.
o Highlighting the credibility of your sources of information.
o Getting introduced by a credible person.
Language that reduces credibility includes:
* Ums, ers and other, ah, hesitation.
* Totally and absolutely excessive exaggeration.
* Kinds of qualifications that sort of lack assertion, I guess.
* Politeness, sir, that indicates subordination.
* I know it is silly to say this, but disclaimers do reduce credibility.
So what?
Using it
Build your credibility before persuading. Understand what builds and destroys it. Protect it like a baby, because once lost it can be impossible to recover. Use it to gain commitment without having to argue your case.
Defending
When you are making a big decision, be careful to examine the real credibility of your advisors, including what they stand to gain from your decision.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Colorado-Springs-Independent/102223626599
Come out off this blog into the Public Eye.
Peace & Love
Janis
Ed Billings in on the same site.
OK are you awake yet?
There’s an historical perspective in favor of self-governing Tent Cities. From the Great Depression in fact.
The book and movie Grapes of Wrath described one such workers’ colony. The Grapes of Wrath, often spoken of as a Communist Propaganda masterpiece, actually softened the tone quite a bit from the reality of those times.
Then, as now, there were Citizens’ Committees who appointed themselves to go and clear out them thar bums. Usually aided by the equally frightened local law enforcement.
This in turn mirrored a situation from a generation earlier and another generation once removed from that.
Did you know, incidentally, that Shanteagh and Slum and Rowdy and Hooligan were all Irish words?
This kind of action you unleashed at City Hall is just another installment in the nightmare cycle of the Rich being frightened by the absolute poverty of the Poor and wiring up the Bourgeoisie to attack the poor.
Only now, there’s precious little left of the Bourgeoisie. And not much chance that a modern Franklin Roosevelt is going to be able to force the Richest from getting off their Thieving Ways.
So the people of Tent City, even though you think you’ve legislated them out of existence, aren’t going away and there will be more and more in such situations, or worse.
Since you’ve chosen to patronize them and us with platitudes about giving a non-existent hand-up, and to continue the vicious cycle to its only logical conclusion, perhaps you’d best arm yourselves heavily.
You’re choosing to make literal War against the poorest Americans. By doing so you’re going to force our nation into either a reign of Terror or a complete Police State Dictatorship.
Hard to tell which would be the worse of the two.
The tent cities and shanty-towns of our past, or the people therein, survived by self governance. Not an Elitist imposed governance.
That you feel them and us incapable of such direct democracy was a done deal anyway.
Brother Jonah –
There are those of us who want the war to end against the homeless. Do you?
We are at an exciting point in time where all parties involved – Homeless, Non-Profits, Churches, Government, Community are all sitting around a table discussing the issues.
Sure wish you were a part of the solution. You should be talked out by now on ranting, raving and insulting involved community members trying to make a difference.
Peace & Love
Janis
Janis presumes to lecture us on “credability.” And she pretends her “research” hits the mark with “Ouch” and “Yikes.” What a hoot.
She tries to slander Brojo confusing him with a complaint about AFW’s “Mojo.”
Um, Ed Billings did organize the Friday CFP rally.
And how patronizing to pretend the CC students and homeless persons who joined were not fully on board with the message. The only duplicity here was with someone pretending to advocate for the homeless while giving them the boot.
Du calm Frere J, human rights will prevail over these cons.
Give me a second to look up the link where you are quoted.
Be right back!
Peace & Love
Janis
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/83648127.html?storySection=story
The homeless concern in Colorado Springs has become a hot topic for many. Some residents are anxious, waiting for the city to find solutions to the problem. Friday, a justice and peace demonstration was held outside the steps of City Hall in downtown Colorado Springs. The host, Coloradans For Peace says the purpose of the demonstration was to urge city leaders to find humane solutions for the growing homeless population.
The title of Friday’s event says it all: Don’t criminalize the homeless. Coloradans For Peace believes whatever actions the city takes in the future, should not include removing makeshift tent shelters under city bridges and near creeks.
Justice and peace demonstrators also called on religious organizations in the area to protect the homeless who are trying to survive on the streets.
Friday’s scheduled event comes as city officials try to solve the homeless problem. From trashy camps, to even tents catching fire during the cold months, setting up camp could become illegal in the near future.
For more on Coloradans For Peace, click on the link below.
Damage Control – Whoops!
Who quoted “Justice and Peace” Eric – were you trying to confuse the Public?
Didn’t work!
Peace & Love
Janis
Eric – I won’t stoop so low as to name the homeless holding your signs.
You can find them in the Gazette, on facebook and myspace.
Peace & Love
Janis
Ah, you mean if other citizens besides Homeless Citizens oppose your Pogrom Program, then the opposition is automatically invalidated and your Agenda reigns suprem(acist.)
That’s almost as predictable as calling the homeless citizens Crazy.
By the way, your ordinance to deny citizenship to persons who have the lowest per capita income, based solely on that income, will be challenged.
Rent a Dumpster, Rent some PortaPotties, and open the Latrine Facilities already in existence at the Dorcester, Acacia and America the ‘beautiful’ Parks.
Since you’re ever so much superior to us at organizing things, organize a self governance committee in the camps. Just leave the cops out of it. They messed up any chance of themselves ever having good relationships with the Community of Tent City by their Ham-handed Fascist over-reactions to perceived insults long ago.
Seriously, they’ll be a huge detriment to your cause, if indeed you wish to help the people. Their very presence is inflammatory.
Despising people for not advancing your agenda, my my my who would have thought it possible?
Brother Jonah – Do and Eric Verlo, Ed Billings and Rita Ague can search the city council meeting videos on Jan. 25 & 26th.
Check out what I presented – Again – you all need to learn who you are attacking verbally.
You lose what little credibility you have left –
Why two websites?
Not My Tribe & Coloradans for Peace
Help me understand that?
Peace & Love
Janis
Eric – Great damage control on The Independent facebook.
The word is already out –
Peace & Love
Janis
Why haven’t you Brother Jonah or Eric Verlo, Ed Billings, Rita Ague, Robert Moran, Justin Cook or the others who protested – –
warned the Homeless in the Tent Camps that they are living in a 100 year flood plain.
On June 16, 1965, Monument Creek was a 200 foot wide river (roughly 2/3 of a football field)
Water and boulders wiped out the new Ape House at Cheyenne Mountain Zoo
1,200 miles of roads and 80 bridges were heavily damaged
20 people died and 2,500 homes were damaged or destroyed statewide
Prompted Federal Emergency Management Agency to define 100 year flood plain areas
“Rushing water is the worst natural disaster you can have”
“We will see something like 1965 again , it’s just a question of where and how soon”
Peace & Love
Janis
Brother Jonah – We could really use your help!
Peace & Love
Janis
Janis what will be your position if the police begin to use excessive force against the homeless? It has happened in Colorado Springs before.
The Chief of Police has repeatedly shared how the CSPD will interact with the population in the tent camps both in informal and formal city council meetings. The same message has been delivered in community meetings.
My suggestion to the homeless that I have befriended is to visually memorize names or badges numbers or police car license plates, etc. if an incident arises that they do not feel is being handled correctly.
This has to be peaceful –
Peace & Love
Janis
Also believe if we have a large community effort during the moving of the tent camp folks out of the Flood Plain – we can all make sure that the transition is peaceful.
In the meantime, we need a segment of the community looking for a legal piece of land for the folks who want to continue to live off the grid peaceful and self-governed and self-sustaining.
Any ideas
If I had the money I would donate land to them myself. Two things that will be needed are the money and the land. There is a homeless camp in my neighborhood and I have talked to them, they self govern and they DO keep it clean. You have apparently noticed that Janice, I have known that since November of 09 because I have talked to them.
I bought a homeless man a cup of coffee on my way to the bus stop to go to work, this man told me that he should be off the streets in 3 days.
I wouldn’t have known he was homeless by looking at him. We mentioned to each other we were both on our way to work, then he told me he was homeless.
This just goes to show you that there are homeless people who want to work.
Another thing is that perhaps these shelters shouldn’t discriminate against someone who is working at day labor.
Day labor establishments have indirectly helped homeless individauls to be directly hired by an employer who was impressed by their work.
Perhaps if the individaul was reconized as employed even if they are working via apprentice or labor ready and they continue to earn daily pay then maybe the camps wouldn’t be an issue.
But what the hell am I talking about? I only experienced this when I was homeless 20 years ago, and there are homeless people experiencing this now.
As for land for those who want to live off the grid, If I had the money to donate for that I would buy the land and donate it with regulations for cleanliness.
That’s all that needs to be done instead of turning the police on them.
http://www.taxexemptworld.com/search.asp?pg=29&type=os&criteria=CO&rc=2831&ra=3958170689&ri=4795249115&re=&prevpage=30&city=Colorado+Springs
I just found out that Colorado Springs has
2,831 Tax exempt organizations – non profit
organizations.
Going to do a download tomorrow and organize
the information to get all the housing, housing assistance – anything that can help People in Need.
Y’all better go the hospital, right away !!!! I think you got a hold of some bad acid, or something ! ?
Actually, Janis, because I’m friends with a lot of the people who live there, I do. One big thing that could be done, in case the annual (not 100 year, the places where some tents are) flood plain, the primary and secondary plains are suddenly under 3-5 feet of fast moving water, is to take out the fences on either side, the one on the freeway side and the one on the railroad side.
Have it done BEFORE anything happens.
I also “sell” the concept on the visualization that if the Cops ride down on them, breaking down their tents and such, the cops would only have to put a squad on each end of the fence lines, like at the confluence and at the edge of America the “beautiful” park, there’s chain link fences that would make it impossible to escape.
When the people do move the camps, the cops definitely aren’t welcome “help”. Anybody who’s spent any amount of time being poor realizes that the Cops Don’t Like Poor People. They impress this on us routinely and often… and they do it violently if they think we didn’t get the message clearly the rest of the time. When you’ve had the backseat handcuff-and-tazer treatment there’s very little chance you’re going to look at a uniform and see a person in it.
That’s the cops’ own fault. The ones who aren’t directly abusive don’t testify for the prisoners because it would be testifying against their fellow
PIcops. So they’re complicit, and they all, including Meyers, know it.When Liar Meyers says the police are going to handle “the problem” with compassion, the first two parts of the statement are the most important and telling. He looks (down) on the people as a “problem” and he’s going to “handle” (violently control) them. Everything after that is just crap.
Especially the “compassion” part, people who have compassion don’t become cops.
The “solution” passed by City Council last week is so draconian from start to finish that the word “solution” should have “Final” in front of it.
You could tell without knowing anything else about it, that it was written by Cops. It’s like hearing the words “now, this is for your own good”, you know immediately that your welfare isn’t at the top of the list and not even in the top half and probably isn’t even ON the list.
The only times they mention Rights is when they’re trying to find a way to circumvent those Rights.
Brother Jonah-
Tent Camps
Crime – Bat Gangs, thefts, vandalism, drugs, unregistered sex offenders, folks with out-standing warrants . . .
What about the crime that is rampant in the Camps? A little of 300 folks.
Not fair to the low number of folks that want to live off the grid in harmony. These folks are at risk when the population is so fluid of “new folks” from all the country to live in the tent camps here because the word is “Colorado Springs is a friendly place for the homeless”.
Every homeless person who has been in the news here in Colorado Springs can be researched that they recently moved here homeless to be homeless.
So how do you suggest that we manage our community homeless with our community non-profits.
I can see it busting at the seams – simple because the homeless population is growing with transient homeless from other areas. These folks have no friends or family here.
Peace & Love – (Love the new dialog)
Janis
And you don’t see the notion that the News Organizations here are anti-homeless, and will cherry pick interviews and cherry pick the parts of those interviews?
There was one very telling statement on Channel 5 news “Homeless criminals committed 3 crimes, no suspects’
In other words, the reporting agencies didn’t know who had committed the crimes, and didn’t have any proof, therefore, that they were in fact homeless people from the camp or homeless people in the first place.
If there are felony warrants against people in the camp, as you assert matter-of-factly, the camps are among the most photographed part of the Springs nowadays, especially by the Pigs.
If the Pigs had evidence of the wild claims they make, they would simply have staked out the trail and picked off the Felons one by one.
The source data are flawed, the processed data are flawed. GIGO Garbage In, Garbage Out.
I know from experience that the Pigs can say anything they want and there’s a certain segment of the population who will believe every word they say, and start bleating “The Policeman Is Always Right, If You’ve Done Nothing Wrong Why Should You Fear The KGB, Comrade, Four Legs Good Two Legs Baaaaaaaaddd…”
If I point out that they beat me and tazered me while I was handcuffed because I talked back to their Coward Pig Collective Ass, people like for instance YOU would say that I deserved to be beaten down, because “Everybody” knows that you have to Grovel to their uniform badge and gun.
When the Almighty Pig tells you to shut up, you must immediately apologize and offer to tongue wash his Jackboots.
No Thanks, Lady. You do enough Pig Bootlicking for both of us.
Be sure to get the part under the shoelaces because that’s where the blood accumulates.
The blood from where they kick somebody in the face while their fellow PIGS are holding him down. They do it that way because they’re too cowardly to take somebody one-on-one unless he’s handcuffed.
Brother Jonah – You are resorting back to your old style.
The Gazette (as you know) did a four page spread on the Homeless tent camps. The on-line version included inter-active areas that included one on one interviews, maps of the tent camps and 4 videos.
One of those videos titled Andy and Charlene –
Andy (Solar power self-sufficient tent camper) brought the press into the library to continue filming.
Know Andy – He innocently disclosed where the homeless go to hook up on the computers and read.
So for example – if we have felons with outstanding warrants from other states coming to populate the tent camps . . .
So do I understand that you are ok with the Tent Camp violence and crime?
Still
Peace & Love
Janis
Yeah, I have an attitude about it. I’m entitled to it and the Pigs gave it to me while I was handcuffed and filed false charges to cover for it.
Maybe Chief Liars would care to meet me one on one and try to beat it out of me? Without backup of course.
I already know that he won’t, like every cop he’s not only a liar but a Coward.
The job doesn’t change them into that, only a lying coward would take the job in the first place.
Meanwhile, go ahead and spread their Hate-speech propaganda for them. You’re doing a really GOOD job for them.
Jesus must be so proud.
It was Cops who nailed Him to the cross, you know.
And the “back the badge” crowd who cheered them on.
You need a cup of coffee –
So help me understand, you don’t think we should have any law enforcement in the tent camps?
We should take a legal void stance?
Peace & Love
Janis
I’m not even going to read what you said. Hope you didn’t spend too much time and effort coming up with and writing down whatever it was.
O, scratch that, it kept you amused for a few minutes kept you busy so that you weren’t out messing shit up. In which case it was a Good Investment.
If you were offering a lame-ass defense of the Cops with some variant of “well, they wouldn’t have beaten you up if they didn’t have a reason”, well, they DID have a reason.
They resent the notion that people don’t worship them as lower-case “g” gods and they’ve got enough community support to get away with taking vengeance on anybody who doesn’t grovel to them. And they’re narcissistic cowards.
Finest Kind, yep. Real Heroes.
If you were telling me I need counselling for the “insane” resentment at such treatment, you can take my place.
Either in the figurative beat-down with some Tame Police Psychiatrist who will keep insisting that The Policeman Is Always Right and that it’s irrational to believe or say otherwise.
Or take my place at the next scheduled Actual Beat-down.
Or both, matters naught to me.
There are always consequences, mind you. They reap what they sow. Ask Jensen and Jordan, whenever you get to Hell and can talk to them.
Your ranting and raving is hurting your cause – whatever that may be – Is it to keep the tent camps thriving and invite more to come? So that you can keep using the “PIGS” word.
Where in this world do we not have law enforcement? and when have we ever lived without laws?
Is that your issue, you think all laws and law enforcement officers are corrupt?
Peace & Love
Janis
fortworthrick = Rick Wehner = Brohter Jonah
Tell me it’s not so!
Peace & Love
Janis
Rick Wehner says:
November 25, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I would think that a fenced in, enclosed area where it is legal for homeless persons to camp out would drastically reduce the cost to police these areas. The key is that camping out on city or public land would have to be made illegal. The obvious drawback is the increased cost of incarceration. What other options exist that do not require 17 studies and task groups all coming to no conclusion, of which we already have?
Rick Wehner says:
December 7, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I think the downtown churches and those involved with ESM along with the millions of dollars of aid provided by Catholic Charities is a good indication of the strong outreach to the homeless. What is missing is an equal amount of effort from the nutcase evangelical organizations such as FoF and New Life.
And more to the point, how serious is the problem of homelessness in this region? There are any number of organizations providing food not to leave out the Marian House (7 days a week including X and T) plus all the other services they provide. There is Peak Vista Homeless Outreach. There is a homeless shelter and you will notice there are no shortage of decent tents and warm blankets-sleeping bags provided to the creekside dwellers.
How many crimes are on the books due to the homeless population?
I would suspect very few. And what problems do they really cause?
I think the main problem is that the sight of homeless people so close to the Broadmoor and Skyway area is just too disturbing to the whiney old blue-hairs in that area who would not do anything to help if a homeless person were dying in their front yard.
Marie Walden – Needs to update her bio – She is not on the Board of Directors of the ACLU.
American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado and ACLU Foundation of Colorado
Board of Directors:
Arlette Baer, Michael L. Cheroutes Jr., Kim Chavez Cook, Robert L. Connelly, Jr., Selena Dunham, Hugh Q. Gottschalk, Rehan Hasan, Regina Jackson, Sueanna Johnson, Robert J. Jones, Jeff Knetsch, Patty Malesh, Toya M. Nelson, Sam Rachid, Dan Recht, Rebecca T. Wallace, Dan Williams, Roy B. Wiley, Loring Wirbel, Gwen Young and John Zwick.
Peace, Love & Honesty
Janis
Uh. As secretary of the Pikes Peak ACLU for the last 3 years, Marie is an executive committee board member. She’s also chairwoman of the events committee.
Janice, you’re welcome to comment, but if you consistently litter our site with incorrect information, eventually we’ll tire of having to pick up after you.