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Israeli government admits to having committed war crimes

Israel admits using white phosphorous in attacks on Gaza (on its attack on a UN sponsored school). This will bother Barack Obama about as much as his own military murdering civilians in Afghanistan does. Karzai Confirms: US Forces Killed 16 Civilians
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Lest anybody think that this is somehow an aberration and not representative of the face that the Barack regime will present to the world, Richard Holbrooke, a Clintonite/ Carterite Democratic Party retread elaborates on his opinion that the US government he is now the representative of will be fighting in Afghanistan longer than it did in Vietnam, all to be now under Barack Obama’s direction as US Commander in Chief. See Fata toughest challenge for Obama, says Holbrooke where he talks about Obama’s plans to continually be at war fighting against the peoples of Pakistan, as well as Afghanistan!

We still have a state of permanent US war on the books and that is the game plan under the man who claims to represent CHANGE. It’s the same old thing though, and the only change will be the economic depression that the Democratic Party policies have helped create will also be a happening for the US population in the coming years. ‘Change’ you won’t like.

A good part of Barack Obama’s war games will include yet more future use of Israeli war crimes, like the dropping of White Phosphorus on civilians inside the UN run school for children. Despite all the slick talk by Slick Obama, he doesn’t really give one hoot for human life. It really sickens me to hear folk claim to believe that the man is sincere and wants to make change happen, when it is so blatantly obvious that that simply is not the case. Barack and his Israeli war criminal friends plan on continuing the same Pentagon terrorism in pursuit of supremacy over their neo-colonies.

23 thoughts on “Israeli government admits to having committed war crimes

  1. ‘However, Herby said evidence is still limited because of the difficulties of gaining access to Gaza, where Palestinian health officials say more than 900 people have been killed and 4,250 wounded since Israel launched its offensive late last month.’

    This is from the article you linked to, Mary. Why do yo think that there was so much difficulty gaining access for reporters? They feared being murdered by Israeli troops, didn’t they? Plus, they had reason to be since they were targets of the IDF, and were denied access by the Isrealis so that they could not cover the massacre.

    Further, the date of the material you presented here for us to read was from the 14th of January, so I went directly to the International Red Cross to read what their web site currently has to say about this White Phosphorus use by Israel in Gaza, Mary. This is what it read…

    ‘If ICRC delegates in the field gather credible and precise evidence of violations, or if ICRC medical personnel corroborate reports by others, the ICRC would begin by discussing this with the party concerned – rather than speaking publicly – in keeping with our standard practices. We have not commented publicly on the legality of the current use of phosphorous weapons by Israel, contrary to what has been attributed to us in recent media reports.’

    So they deny the media report that you read to be as being valid or legitimate, and say that they would only comment on the criminality of the White phosphorus use directly and privately with the users of it, Israel.

    Now that is a rather bizarre route to take in dealing with war crimes, but that is the position of the IRC as stated by themselves. Normally, one takes the position with war crimes that they should be denounced publicly for all the public to see though, such as the United Nations actually has been doing about these Israeli war crimes, as well as many other organizations who have also denounced such.

    Here below is the International Red Cross link I am quoting from so you can see for yourself what I am telling you, Mary.

    http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/weapons-interview-170109

  2. The “revised” ICRC position is they continue to investigate Israel’s use of white phosphorous, reversing earlier findings that Israel’s use of it DID NOT constitute war crimes. YET, your headline states Israel has committed war crimes in using white phosphorous. As the ICRC has acknowledged, merely using white phosphorous isn’t illegal. Your headline is inaccurate and misleading.

    ‘However, Herby said evidence is still limited because of the difficulties of gaining access to Gaza, where Palestinian health officials say more than 900 people have been killed and 4,250 wounded since Israel launched its offensive late last month.’

    It’s tragic that Palestinians are suffering due to Hamas war mongering. Hamas doesn’t value life very much, but then again, Hamas has stated, “We love death as you love life”. Except when their own lives are at stake LOL. This, from the 1/6 edition of Haaretz…

    “Hamas has thus far avoided direct clashes with Israel Defense Forces troops, preferring instead to take refuge in densely populated civilian neighborhoods, Palestinians sources said yesterday.
    Hamas, they said, prefers to shoot from between houses, leaving local civilians to absorb the IDF’s retaliatory strikes. Yesterday, two Palestinian families were killed by IDF fire…
    The sources also said that senior Hamas officials have been spotted more than once wandering around the maternity ward of Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital and even using the hospital to hold press conferences, on the theory that it offers a safe haven from Israeli fire. For the same reason, Hamas forces have taken refuge near buildings that serve as headquarters for various international organizations, such as the Red Cross and the United Nations.”

    War is ugly, remember Hiroshima and Dresden—Hamas initiated the war. An EU offcial seeing the situation up-close says Hamas is responsible Gaza… http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1232643751651&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    In addition to being cowards, Hamas are also thieves with their own people, stealing humanitarian aid delivered in Gaza…
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231424932109&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    “Why do yo think that there was so much difficulty gaining access for reporters? ”

    Probably because Hamas prevented access to the media, in addition to Israel. It’s no secret the media tend to have an anti-Israel bias. The Palestinian/Israeli conflict is highly charged, politically, and the media use their editorial power to demonize Israel in order to express their own sentiments. The press were also disallowed frontline access during WW II, so there is precedent.

  3. ‘It’s no secret the media tend to have an anti-Israel bias.’

    Give it a break, Mary. The media in the US is solidly pro-Israel as is the entire US government. How can you digest such nonsense (at worldnet no doubt) and then use it without any sense of how funny in a dark manner it actually is to anybody with half a mind?

    ‘YET, your headline states Israel has committed war crimes in using white phosphorous. As the ICRC has acknowledged, merely using white phosphorous isn’t illegal. Your headline is inaccurate and misleading.’

    Not at all since the IRC is in no way the only group of people determining what is a war crime or not. In fact, I mentioned that their site had an utterly nonsensical approach to what it does if a war crime is actually committed in their opinion. If they think it in fact real that a war crime has been committed, they state that they remain utterly silent to the general public and press, and then only go to the war criminals and privately discuss it with them! Absurd, is it not? And yet that is the IRC it seems, as spoken in their own words on their own web site. Why should they be some sort of ultimate judge on the matter?

  4. “Not at all since the IRC is in no way the only group of people determining what is a war crime or not. ”

    And, no impartial body, in the courts or elsewhere, has determined that Israel committed war crimes in its use of WP. Why not wait until conclusive verdicts are reached before condemning and libeling a nation that has merely been acting in self-defense? In the mean time, you can direct your indignation about war crimes to Hamas, who have been committing such crimes against their own people…
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050211857&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  5. Mary, is this the same BBC that will not even allow charity organizations to advertise to raise funds to help repair all the billions of dollars of vandalism that Israel is doing in Gaza to the Palestinian refugees that live there?

    Here is the latest news of Israeli Jewish terrorists attacking children in Gaza, Mary.
    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1456422.php/Fresh_Israeli_airstrike_injures_8_amid_fragile_Gaza_truce__Extra__

    It’s the same terrorism by Israel over and over and over again. And it is the same excuses that people like you make for it, over and over and over again, Mary. You seem to have no shame?

  6. Tony Logan wrote: “Here is the latest news of Israeli Jewish terrorists attacking children in Gaza, Mary.
    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1456422.php/Fresh_Israeli_airstrike_injures_8_amid_fragile_Gaza_truce__Extra__

    It’s the same terrorism by Israel over and over and over again. And it is the same excuses that people like you make for it, over and over and over again, Mary. You seem to have no shame?

    Casualties of innocent civilians are an inevitable consequence of war. Unlike Hamas, who target Israeli civilians, the IDF does not target Palestinian civilians. As for equating a war of self-defense, sanctioned under internationa law, with terorrism against a group classified as terrorists by much of the world with terrorism, you merely diminish the true meaning of terrorism and you libel Israel.

  7. I must say, this debate over who has conducted themselves worse in Gaza recently is basically pointless as it does nothing to solve the Palestinian Israeli conflict. Neither Israel nor the Palestinians has behaved perfectly. For every “tit”, I can give you a “tat” It really becomes tedious and, indeed, most of the world is just fed up with the whole situation. Going forward, the Palestinians and Israelis have to learn to live in peace with one another. Hamas says they want to be part of the world community, except for accepting Israel. Israel, from my POV, has made significant gestures for peace with the Palestinians, such as picking up and leaving Gaza. Hamas must accept Israel as Israel accepts the right of Palestinians to their own independence. Hopefully, both sides will work out their differences in this new year.

  8. ‘Casualties of innocent civilians are an inevitable consequence of war. Unlike Hamas, who target Israeli civilians, the IDF does not target Palestinian civilians’

    That is true, but both the United States and Israel wage war in such a manner than between the two countries, hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have gotten slaughtered in their wars. Now saying that, it is also true that the US is the larger responsible country here, much more so than the Jewish Israeli Apartheid State.

  9. Tony Logan said: “That is true, but both the United States and Israel wage war in such a manner than between the two countries, hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have gotten slaughtered in their wars. Now saying that, it is also true that the US is the larger responsible country here, much more so than the Jewish Israeli Apartheid State.”

    See my earlier post in another thread about “tit for tat” Hamas provokes Israel into a war. Israel retaliates. Civilians die, maximized by Hamas human shielding and maintaining military operations within civilian populations. Tell your friends in Hamas to stop aggressive moves against Israel and then everyone can live in peace. As for your assertion about apartheid in Israel, please, how many more cliches can you dredge up? Arabs have more human rights in Israel, including being in the Knesset, than in any Arab country. If you are concerned about apartheid, then you need to focus on Lebanon instead of your nonsense with Israel…
    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24170

  10. Yeah, we know, Mary. Those damn Native Americans provoked war too with their ‘tit for tat’ attack on innocent Anglo civilians. And I do believe that the Jews provoked the Germans with all their immoral sexual conduct and seedy Payday Loan places back in the ’30s? Some people just seem to ask for it, don’t they?

  11. Tony Logan wrote: “Yeah, we know, Mary. Those damn Native Americans provoked war too with their ‘tit for tat’ attack on innocent Anglo civilians. And I do believe that the Jews provoked the Germans with all their immoral sexual conduct and seedy Payday Loan places back in the ’30s? Some people just seem to ask for it, don’t they?”

    Palestinian President Abbas says Hamas asked for it…

    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/01/27/news/ML-Palestinians-Abbas.php

  12. Abbas is a paid stooge, too. Did you are your employer pay for it, Mary? You guys hated Arafat and the PLO, but now are cheerleaders for Abbas? My how times change!

  13. Yes, well we were writing about Louis Michel just a couple of days ago and what a dick the guy is. Hey! You forgot to mention the fact that the entire US Congress and Senate minus 5 blames Hamas and not Israel for the destruction of Gaza, too!

    You guys sure have a lot of fire power, don’t you? I’m surprised you didn’t kill even more children there in Gaza with all these top guns at and on your side. I haven’t seen such remarkable restraint since Donald Rumsfeld!

    Here are several quotes from the man…

    Be precise. A lack of precision is dangerous when the margin of error is small.
    Donald Rumsfeld

    Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war.
    Donald Rumsfeld

    PS. Mary, be sure to combine your comments to one thread all together since we sure wouldn’t want people to think that Zionists are unruly people. Now would we?

  14. Aren’t you going to respond to the take the Catholic Church out thread, Mary? What you waiting for, Girl?

  15. Tony Logan wrote: “Aren’t you going to respond to the take the Catholic Church out thread, Mary? What you waiting for, Girl?”

    Nah, I think the links I posted previously showcasing comments from Arab leaders, Arab citizens and the Arab press all condemning Hamas for their brutal treatment of the Palestinians and for bearing responsibiity for the pain and suffering brought about in Gaza are pretty much my response.

  16. “PS. Mary, be sure to combine your comments to one thread all together since we sure wouldn’t want people to think that Zionists are unruly people. Now would we?”

    Dude, I think I’m moving on to more intelligent life in cyberspace. Thanks for the visit, I think. Pity, though, because I suggested that several friends, of different religions and ethnicities, go to your blog, but, they soon left, one after the other, after reading the vitriol and ignorant comments and articles. You have a chance to make something of this blog more than a mere hate site for a handful of people infected with Israel Derangement Syndrome, but, it appears you’re satisfied being marginalized.

  17. Your view of Israel’s incursion in Gaza is grossly and grotesquely skewed to paint a predisposed picture that reflects your own idealogical bias against Israel. You omit the pains the IDF went to in order to minimize casualties and suffering in Gaza, certainly to avoid war crimes. Max Boot, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and Yale-educated military historian, sheds much-needed light on the subject…

    http://www.cfr.org/publication/18378/

    Max Boot says:
    *Israel made every possible effort to avoid collateral damage. It made hundreds of thousands of phone calls and dropped hundreds of thousands of leaflets warning residents of Gaza to leave areas that were about to be targeted.
    *When the Israeli Air Force detected Palestinian civilians atop buildings, it dropped tiny bombs designed to cause little damage. Only when the civilians had cleared off did the air force drop larger munitions that flattened the structure.
    *It is hard to see how Israel could have been more sparing in its application of firepower unless it were willing to limit its response to a symbolic, ineffectual strike that would effectively give Hamas a free pass to rocket its territory with impunity.

    http://www.cfr.org/publication/18119/israels_tragic_gaza_dilemma.html?breadcrumb=%2Fbios%2F5641%2F

    Max Boot says:
    *There is little doubt that Israel is morally justified in its offensive against Hamas. No nation can sit by and allow its territory to be rocketed with impunity
    *For all the accusations of brutality that are routinely flung at Israel’s armed forces, their conduct has been exemplary by historical standards. They have shown far less propensity for indiscriminate killing or torture than did European states in the 1950s when confronting insurgencies in such places as Kenya, Cyprus, Vietnam and Algeria, where the stakes for them were considerably less.

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