Remember when the defense department was paying public relations companies and Iraqi newspapers to insert articles praising the Iraq war? The companies also attempted to plant coverage favorable to the US military in US newspapers. There rightly was a media uproar about the manipulation. We’ll see whether the same happens over this (Hasbara spamming of blogs?)
The (Israeli) foreign ministry shouldn’t get a pass on this one. It may view such hasbara as maximising its efforts to “explain” Israel’s position in the world media. I view it as a cynical attempt to flood the web and news media with favorable flackery in a vain attempt to tilt public opinion toward Israel. Not only does it do Israel a disservice, it stains every legitimate effort that the ministry might make to explain Israel to the world, since no one will believe a word it says knowing it engages in such outright propaganda.
Not to mention that this is such cheap pennyante stuff. What do they gain by this? How effective can it be and how many can be convinced? By the way, I’ve even noticed the hasbaraniks in my own blog. You can see them a mile away because they’ve never published a comment before yet write something like: “I’ve enjoyed your blog for a long time, but anyone with a brain in their head knows that Hamas is out to destroy Israel blah, blah blah.” Pretty formulaic stuff. Also, you can Google a few phrases of the comment and if you find it appears elsewhere on the web you know you either have a hasbaranik or someone who has repetition compulsion….
Full article about Israeli military spamming of antiZionist blogs can be read at Hasbara spam alert …See wikipedia for more about hasbara, otherwise known as Israeli military propaganda spamming.
As one can see by the fake ‘discussion’ by Israeli military spammers here on Not My Tribe, this Israeli suppression of free speech and discussion is a very real problem. We have to spend inordinate amounts of our own time just discussing with these spammers about what they actually are doing rather than talking about anything more political than that. They are extremely boring for us, and extremely boring to others, too. Quite simply they clutter up blogs with their gang graffiti, and that is really about all they are actually about.
And be sure to visit the REPORTING AND CREATING THE MESSAGE art of political ‘Jewish State’ spamming page of the Israel Hasbara Committee to get it from the horse’s mouth. See how dishonest all these spammers really are when they claim to be mere concerned citizens all alone by themselves, rather than a concentrated and coordinated Israeli governmental effort in support of the Israeli war machine. They are lying when they pretend that we are making it all up. They are lying for Israel and in support of its racist policies. They are lying in support of the murder of more Arab peoples. They are lying to steal yet more Palestinian land.
Lets’ see? We have 7 political spams on this site from The Machine already today, starting with one beginning at 4:30 in the morning our time. Anytime an anti-Zionist remark is made, the Israeli military spammer has responded in about 10 minutes or less!
Using a software program like this to try defeat free speech inside the US shows how the Israeli military would be capable of just about any atrocity against those in the Occupied Territories.
Guy doesn’t seem to ever sleep, does he?
Or go to work or do any of those things a normal person would do.
From 12:30 to 4:30 that’s only ummmm… you know, us “crazy” folks can’t do math or nothin’… 4 hours…
Means if he slept the whole 4 hours he didn’t even have time to get up and “purge’ that Mexican Food he said he was eating before getting on the keyboard.
But then, Normal flew out the window.
‘He’ doesn’t ever sleep because ‘he’ is not just one person. One internet identity and many people behind that one fake name… ‘Dan’, ‘Don’ or whatever it is for the moment.
Yeah, I put that in the Lynne Stewart thread.
How much do you want to bet we get called Crazy for it (again)?
another sign of israeli enlightenment: the press in israeli blacked out, or photoshopped out, photos of women elected officials in israel, to appease the israeli taliban
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/03/israel-women-photoshopped_n_182822.html
“another sign of israeli enlightenment: the press in israeli blacked out, or photoshopped out, photos of women elected officials in israel, to appease the israeli taliban”
Wrong. A couple very marginal orthodox Jewish newspapers took out the pics of the women in the Israeli Cabinet, not the mainstream media in Israel. As you prolly don’t know, most Israeli Jews are secular, with orthodox Jews a small segment of the population. To extrapolate the entire Israeli media is engaged in some kind of conspiracy to deceive is, itself, deceptive and unfair. Publishing pictures of women is deemed immodest by the orthodox. Still, orthodox women are not forced to ride in the back seat of cars or wear burkas. Thanks though, for bringing positive attention to the Israeli Cabinet being enlightened in including women, which you don’t see elsewhere in the ME.
Einstein was right to worry that Begin’s first trip to the US after seizing “New” Israel might be to garner support for his plans to dominate the Middle East. That Begin’s words and actions (at Deir Yassin and elsewhere) look/sounded fascist makes me wonder if the push going on now to convince the public that fascism is actually a left-wing ideology also means that their best weapon against criticism — is to accuse others of being an anti-Semite and thereby invoke the Holocaust, is surely a bane for the Zionists. To sit on the right side of the political spectrum alongside Hitler definitely takes some of the shine off their words. http://tinyurl.com/bwjvrc
Gary, in the interest of historical context, you failed to mention that Begin’s “words and actions” were a direct result of Arab persecution and violence toward the Jews in Palestine in the 1920’s, 30’s an 40’s. You might have noted, for example, the Hebron Massacre of 1929 and the pogroms by the Arabs of 1936-39. You might have mentioned that the Palestinian leader at the time, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, collaborated with the Nazis and tried to implement a Final Solution plan to exterminate the Jews of the Middle East. You should also have mentioned that the British suppressed Jewish immigration at a time when Jews were being sent to concentration camps, making the British complicit in Nazi war crimes.
Some frequently cited research by the DHS counter-terrorism panel appears in an e-book (now free!) that studies people like “Dan” and other right-wing authoritarians.
The lack of independent thought seems to result from not passing out of the early, highly authoritarian parent/toddler relationship and into the give-and-take social world where ethical and intellectual skills become more highly developed.
As Altemeyer says of them,
I think you’ll find this book “explains a lot about the enemies of freedom and equality. You think I’m pulling your leg? Follow the link.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
And then there’s Oklahoma Corrections take on conservatives….
http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/ocjrc/95/950725C.HTM
It may be low to laugh over someone else’s illness, but these bastards are such vile, self-righteous hypocrites that I have to admit to enjoying every bit. Enjoy!! 😉
For your reading pleasure “Dan”:
http://tinyurl.com/ay6lcm
Times UK, 1951
Gary, I’m a registered Independent, but, you evidently need to acquire a greater understanding of the history of the Middle East, particularly, as it relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Having greater insight into the past might allow you to write more knowlegeably about the present.
Stock response #659 “Pretend you have things in common so they’re more trusting of you, then (kindly – depending on the situation) suggest they are mistaken. If they ask where good info can be found….YOU”VE GOT THE BASTARD!”
Sorry Dan. Ain’t going for it. I’ve forgotten more history than you’ve lived through.
Gary, I’ve lived in the Middle East half my life. I study the Middle East. Have read probably 1,000 books on the subject. Studied under Bernard Lewis at Princeton. I have a wide circle of friends, Arab, Jewish, Druze, Turkish, Persian, etc. I know the issues in the Middle East. I have forgotten more than you’ll ever know. If you want to criticize Israel, you better know what you’re talking about or I’ll crush you like a flea.
Gary, watch your step! Dan’s read probably 1,000 books on the Middle East. Unfortunately — and this is part of what he’s proudly forgotten — it’s the same book over and over!
Still, that would be one book more than you have read, Marie. 🙂
‘If you want to criticize Israel, you better know what you’re talking about or I’ll crush you like a flea.’
Dan, you arrogant nitwit, I for the life of me don’t know why we tolerate your spam bullshit like we do here? You’ve shown yourself as nothing more than a clown that defends torture use in the most assinine manner repeatedly. You are simple minded and boring rather than being a genius like you think yourself to be.